United thread 2018/19

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sir baconface said:
Excuse me for asking a basic question. Why the fcuk do they need a bus from the Lowry Hotel? Is that where they all live?
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The irony being, if City stay together the night before a game, they do so at the Campus. If only United had thought of that kind of thing...
 
BigJoe#1 said:
No one is going to deliver instant success which is what they're craving for and demand.
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Absolutely not. There's a huge job to be done there.

Just been out for lunch with a United-supporting friend and we went through their squad and worked out who, if a new manager came along and looked at them all carefully, he would keep. There's De Gea, Matic & Pogba who would probably be automatic starters. He said Lukaku but I didn't agree he would be automatic although you might give him a chance. There's Shaw, Bailly, Martial & Rashford who are younger players with some promise that might be worth keeping and making something of. Lingard possibly might have a future and I thought Smalling might be worth it as a squad player, which he didn't agree with. The rest you wouldn't want.

So that's a whole new first-choice back four, a couple of creative midfield players in the mould of Silva/De Bruyne, cover for Matic and at least 2 forwards. At least half a bilion in today's market. The alternative is to bring in someone like Pochettino, who has a record of developing younger players and getting them into the first team successfully. But tat would mean they'd have to give him a full five years and accept the consequences, which are probably missing out on top four for some or all of those 5 years and therefore not getting the CL revenue they currently budget for. That would hit them financially as they'd also lose some sponsorship revenue. Whether the Glazers could accept that is questionable so they'll probably carry on making unsuitable managerial appointments to chase instant success.
 
I am absolutely loving the rag daily comedy show. I think Jose must be given some credit last night though. Even though he had difficulty parking the bus, causing the match to be delayed apparently, it was actually most effective. A smartly parked bus and a 0-0 draw is a Jose masterclass? Surely? What more do people expect?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Absolutely not. There's a huge job to be done there.

Just been out for lunch with a United-supporting friend and we went through their squad and worked out who, if a new manager came along and looked at them all carefully, he would keep. There's De Gea, Matic & Pogba who would probably be automatic starters. He said Lukaku but I didn't agree he would be automatic although you might give him a chance. There's Shaw, Bailly, Martial & Rashford who are younger players with some promise that might be worth keeping and making something of. Lingard possibly might have a future and I thought Smalling might be worth it as a squad player, which he didn't agree with. The rest you wouldn't want.

So that's a whole new first-choice back four, a couple of creative midfield players in the mould of Silva/De Bruyne, cover for Matic and at least 2 forwards. At least half a bilion in today's market. The alternative is to bring in someone like Pochettino, who has a record of developing younger players and getting them into the first team successfully. But tat would mean they'd have to give him a full five years and accept the consequences, which are probably missing out on top four for some or all of those 5 years and therefore not getting the CL revenue they currently budget for. That would hit them financially as they'd also lose some sponsorship revenue. Whether the Glazers could accept that is questionable so they'll probably carry on making unsuitable managerial appointments to chase instant success.
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Their youth set up is pretty poor nowadays, so which youngsters would Poch be developing?

We keep going back to it but the rags have to go long term with the next appointment and take the hit whilst the new man builds
It's either that or the Glazers continue asset stripping, hope that football club stocks continue to rise and sell what's left in five years
When you consider what our plans are, in five years we're going to be Apple, they're going to be Commodore
 
dickie davies said:
Their youth set up is pretty poor nowadays, so which youngsters would Poch be developing?

We keep going back to it but the rags have to go long term with the next appointment and take the hit whilst the new man builds
It's either that or the Glazers continue asset stripping, hope that football club stocks continue to rise and sell what's left in five years
When you consider what our plans are, in five years we're going to be Apple, they're going to be Commodore
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united once again will go for the quick fix and pump another 300 million in rather than sit a few years in transition and its all city's fault, they cant sit back while we are clearing up, the quick fix will never work it only makes the problem worse the problem being they have fallen on their own sword with the success whiskey had, its a job no one really wants because the likely result in failure will trash a managers CV beyond repair, they as a club will never be happy until they have appointed a manager that can duplicate slurs success but their is no such person in existence so the wheel keeps turning in the manager merry go round and the club continues to be financially sucked dry.
 
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