United thread 2019/20

[MillionMilesAway]

For the record MMA I actually thought you were being sarcastic :-D

I did wonder about that from your reply!

I just don't see the FA as being slaves to one or two clubs.

Ho hum.

 

[DrBlueBob]

The Scum slash £30m off the asking price for Pogbad, now only want £150m. Are they for real?

It's always terrible when you throw in an extra 0 by mistake.

The zero key is nowhere near the m key, how did you get that so wrong?

 

[Blue Mist]

I did wonder about that from your reply!

I just don't see the FA as being slaves to one or two clubs.

Ho hum.

Well the Premier League certainly seem to favour them, (see the Times revelations in another post.) Isn't it them that have the ultimate say on how many British players should be in a squad.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Well the Premier League certainly seem to favour them, (see the Times revelations in another post.) Isn't it them that have the ultimate say on how many British players should be in a squad.

The PL may well do, yes.
Doesn't mean the FA do automatically, although the PL try to bully them whenever they can.

British player numbers is PL rules, I'd have thought, with the consideration of UEFA as well for those in European competition. Might be wrong on that.

 

[Dirty Harry]

I did wonder about that from your reply!

I just don't see the FA as being slaves to one or two clubs.

Ho hum.

No worries bud, I don’t specifically think my train of thought applies only to football, it’s one of human nature as much as anything, you do what needs to be done to protect your own interests and assets, so I’m not accusing Gill or others of doing something I wouldn’t be doing myself in a similar situation.

But for what it’s worth, I don’t think we would be going anywhere near the old “2 foreign players” type thing, that would be utter folly as it would dilute the PL to such an extent players and probably another league would benefit and become a more lucrative and sellable commodity at our expense, however, I do think that we will, ultimately, head in that direction, , a somewhat watered down version, We know how far the authorities plan into the future (see Scudamores 6 year plan) so it just wouldn’t surprise me if certain clubs, with connections within those authorities, were given a bit of a head start ?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

No worries bud, I don’t specifically think my train of thought applies only to football, it’s one of human nature as much as anything, you do what needs to be done to protect your own interests and assets, so I’m not accusing Gill or others of doing something I wouldn’t be doing myself in a similar situation.

But for what it’s worth, I don’t think we would be going anywhere near the old “2 foreign players” type thing, that would be utter folly as it would dilute the PL to such an extent players and probably another league would benefit and become a more lucrative and sellable commodity at our expense, however, I do think that we will, ultimately, head in that direction, , a somewhat watered down version, We know how far the authorities plan into the future (see Scudamores 6 year plan) so it just wouldn’t surprise me if certain clubs, with connections within those authorities, were given a bit of a head start ?

All fair enough. I agree that the big boys always want more, and I expect that City have been involved in similar things in recent years too. The PL have beaten up the league on game management just by threatening to withhold money fro the derisory amount they pass down now, and have got the FA to give up 5th round day and replays - it's only going to get worse on that.

It's being reported this week that the move will be to 13 overseas players, rather than 17 as a maximum - that would be pretty bad for many teams, although it'll be a few years yet before it could come in.

 

[Newman Noggs]

All fair enough. I agree that the big boys always want more, and I expect that City have been involved in similar things in recent years too. The PL have beaten up the league on game management just by threatening to withhold money fro the derisory amount they pass down now, and have got the FA to give up 5th round day and replays - it's only going to get worse on that.

It's being reported this week that the move will be to 13 overseas players, rather than 17 as a maximum - that would be pretty bad for many teams, although it'll be a few years yet before it could come in.

It would also be shit for the overall PL product driving down the talent pool and lowering the standard of football so that rich teams currently lying in 7th or 8th place, for example, would be elevated into the top 4 without a commensurate improvement in product. And no-one would want that.

 

[Blue Mist]

It would also be shit for the overall PL product driving down the talent pool and lowering the standard of football so that rich teams currently lying in 7th or 8th place, for example, would be elevated into the top 4 without a commensurate improvement in product. And no-one would want that.

Seriously ! 'No one would want that' Sky/BT would for a start.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Seriously ! 'No one would want that' Sky/BT would for a start.

;-)

 

[creditunionhero]

Anyone getting suspicious of why they are buying mostly English footballers? Could it be that in the near future there will be a law from FA saying teams have to have a certain amount of English players in all prem league teams?

Just seen an earlier post alluding to the same thing

The same would have to apply to all teams in Europe, limiting for example the number on none Spanish players in a Spanish team. Otherwise a young Spanish player could sue Uefa if he couldn't play in a European competition because Spain allowed more foreigners in their teams than English teams.

Of course we could just get round it by playing English players in the PL and using a team of foreigners in the Chumps League.

 

[hertsblue]

Are they selling season tickets for next year yet. After being linked to about 400 players in January and getting some bloke from China on loan and a midfielder BBC Gossip column today has them in for:

Manchester United are planning a £160m swoop for Aston Villa's Jack Grealish, 24, and Leicester City and England midfielder James Maddison, 23, this summer
Manchester United are determined to beat Chelsea in the £120m battle to sign Borussia Dortmund and England forward Jadon Sancho, 19
Manchester United could revive their interest in Lyon's 23-year-old French striker Moussa Dembele in the summer.
Napoli and Belgium striker Dries Mertens, 32, is increasingly likely to move on a free transfer in the summer - with Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal all vying for his signature
Chelsea will face competition for Ziyech's signature from Arsenal and Manchester United who are both interested in a summer move for the winger
Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool and Atletico Madrid are all interested in Verona and Albania defender Marash Kumbulla, 20
Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United are interested in signing 17-year-old, 6ft 4in England youth goalkeeper Brad Young from Hartlepool

that all means they probably make the guy from China into a permanent transfer :)-

 

[journolud]

It would also be shit for the overall PL product driving down the talent pool and lowering the standard of football so that rich teams currently lying in 7th or 8th place, for example, would be elevated into the top 4 without a commensurate improvement in product. And no-one would want that.

Well maybe the teams lying in 7th and 8th would like it and all those below might fancy a general dumbing down of the product

 

[Vienna_70]

All clubs will know that the rules are likely to change due to Brexit, and how they are likely to change won't be much of a surprise to anyone. The idea that the FA would brief one club is pretty ludicrous.

If Utd want to blow a huge amount on Grealish and Maddison, they still won't have a proper centre forward or right wing, will have yet another left side attacker, and will have to offload some biggish names; Maddison would help their team though. It's agent talk because there is no actual football to report.

The rags don’t have a proper left-back, nor right-back. They don’t have a proper defensive midfielder and there are questions about whether they have a proper goalkeeper and centre-back.

;-)

 

[Indaparkside]

The rags don’t have a proper left-back, nor right-back. They don’t have a proper defensive midfielder and there are questions about whether they have a proper goalkeeper and centre-back.

;-)

Or manager

 

[Vienna_70]

It would also be shit for the overall PL product driving down the talent pool and lowering the standard of football so that rich teams currently lying in 7th or 8th place, for example, would be elevated into the top 4 without a commensurate improvement in product. And no-one would want that.

I can’t possibly imagine which team you might be talking about.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

If the British shite they are buying so far is anything to go by I will sleep soundly.

 

[citytill1die84]

The rags don’t have a proper left-back, nor right-back. They don’t have a proper defensive midfielder and there are questions about whether they have a proper goalkeeper and centre-back.

;-)

And they still managed to beat us twice on home soil :(

 

[cleavers]

According to the mirror Ighalo is now banned from training with them due to the coronavirus, this really has to be their best signing yet, well done Ed.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

And they still managed to beat us twice on home soil :(

Yeah but shit happens.

 

[SWPISHOME]

I'm just hoping Chelsea do the Rags Monday night and put them out of the equation for a top 4 spot.