United thread 2020/21

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Utd have got the money. They are second in the league and about to get to a Euro final. I suspect that they feel a fans 50 +1 model would give them Bayern Munich like status. The German model has good and bad points, a one team league is a bad point, but that's what many Utd fans yearn for. What sort of mentality thinks a banner about their neighbours lack of success is ok. They are only happy if dominating.
They are the bitterest set of cunts out there and their mardarse attitude to everything is pure comedy.
 
United were nothing before Matt Busby! Busby went to United in 1945, 76 years ago; but the league had been going for 57 years and the FA Cup for 74 years before that, and as you say some clubs were formed 80+ years before that. So for half of football history (plus the 1970s) United have been a non-entity of a club. How the fuck can they be considered the Grandfathers of English football?

As Newton Heath they were getting crowds of 400 at Bank Street and went bust. As Manchester United they won their first ever trophies with City’s players, then went 37 years without winning anything. They were getting average attendances of 11,000, individual attendances of 4,000, couldn’t afford to buy their own kits so used old City kits (Rags), and nearly went bust in the 1930s.

The grandfathers of English football are:
Aston Villa - 6 league titles and 6 FA Cups by 1920.
Sunderland - 6 league titles and an FA Cup by 1936.
Everton - 5 league titles and 2 FA Cups by 1939.
Newcastle - 4 league titles and 3 FA Cups by 1932.
Sheffield Wednesday - 4 league titles and 3 FA Cups by 1935.
Blackburn Rovers - 2 league titles and 6 FA Cups by 1928.
Preston North End - 2 league titles and 2 FA Cups by 1938, first ever Double Winners (1888-89) in a season they went unbeaten in the league (first ever Invincibles) and didn’t concede a goal in the FA Cup.

In the decade United were almost going bust, other clubs were huge in comparison:
Arsenal were winning 5 league titles and 2 FA cups.
Everton were winning 3 league titles and an FA Cup.
City were winning the league title, the FA Cup, playing the first ever “European” fixture (against a German league XI in Germany), were getting regular 60-70,000 attendances as well as the record breaking 84,569 attendance in 1934.
West Brom were getting 64,000+ crowds.
Birmingham were getting 66,000+ crowds.
Huddersfield (after winning 3 consecutive league titles the previous decade) were getting 67,000+ crowds.
Sheffield United were getting 68,000+ crowds.
Newcastle were getting 68,000+ crowds.
Bolton were getting 69,000+ crowds.
Sheffield Wednesday were getting 72,000+ crowds (against City) and winning trophies.
Sunderland were getting 72,000+ crowds and winning trophies.
Charlton were challenging [City] for the league title and getting 75,000+ crowds.
Chelsea were getting 82,000+ crowds.

I’ve named 16 clubs there, and not exhausted the list, who have more legitimacy of calling themselves bigger clubs than United in the first half of football history.

Man United “the Grandfathers of English football”, my arse!
They've had 3 consistently successful periods. The first was in the early 1900's (1908-1911) after they'd been saved from bankruptcy by J H Davies in 1901 and then got a load of our players, when we suffered sanctions after the Meredith bribery and illegal payments affair.

Then after Gibson saved them again in 1931, it took a few years (until the mid 1950's) until Busby started winning things. Sadly Munich put a temporary stop to that but he rebuilt them and started again from the early 1960's through till his retirement in 1969. Then they had a few FA Cup wins in the next 20 years until Ferguson's run of success started.

They've therefore had just two periods in their history when they've been consistently successful over more than 5 years.
 
They did achieve one thing, the rag thread is now on the verge of overtaking the dipper thread.
As it should have always been. I have posted a few months ago in this thread about how some city fans have lost sight of who the true enemy are. I hope this riot and the subsequent media love-in have reminded some wayward blues what United fans are truly like, and how they can never be forgiven.
 
It seems like my post has been taken wrongly by a minority.
At end of the day we are all meant be football fans, as much as we dislike united, Liverpool etc. We shouldn’t be in joy that their clubs are getting ruined by greedy businessmen.
You never know 1 day maybe our oil money dries up and we are bought out by a greedy American owner who bleeds the club dry. We wouldn’t like that , it’s about protecting the game, protecting football and what is right.

There is no class in kicking the enemy when they are down because we are ok. You never know what is round the corner.

Football has been around a longer time then all of us alive today. If things don’t change regarding rules and ownerships then football as we know it will not survive. The rich will get richer , clubs which are the beating heart of cities will seize to exist, the game will be ruined. We need all be united against this and stand up for what’s right about football.
The clubs belong to the fans !
United and Liverpool being ruined couldn't come a day too soon so thanks but no thanks.
 
It seems like my post has been taken wrongly by a minority.
At end of the day we are all meant be football fans, as much as we dislike united, Liverpool etc. We shouldn’t be in joy that their clubs are getting ruined by greedy businessmen.
You never know 1 day maybe our oil money dries up and we are bought out by a greedy American owner who bleeds the club dry. We wouldn’t like that , it’s about protecting the game, protecting football and what is right.

There is no class in kicking the enemy when they are down because we are ok. You never know what is round the corner.

Football has been around a longer time then all of us alive today. If things don’t change regarding rules and ownerships then football as we know it will not survive. The rich will get richer , clubs which are the beating heart of cities will seize to exist, the game will be ruined. We need all be united against this and stand up for what’s right about football.
The clubs belong to the fans !
What? United do not give a crap about football. The majority of their ‘supporters’ or thugs only care about winning. The protest yesterday was not an argument related to football or the ESL. Rat face has been whipping them into a frenzy for 2 weeks now. They see it as a golden opportunity to remove the Glazers due to the on field decline.The yanks have spent well over 1 billion on crap. I hope they rot in their decrepit cesspit of shit. Rotten glory hunting pricks.

Anyway, you should know being a die hard red. Take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere. I will enjoy the oil money achievements even more now. Your club is a fucking joke.
 
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