United Thread - 2021/22

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Would anyone be that arsed if they got Pochettino? For me he's a decent coach but a level below the elite, add to that he doesn't strike me as a manager who could deal with the egos in that dressing room.

There's a big PR spin on how great he is, but he hasn't improved PSG as a footballing side or even tactically, and it'll be a laugh trying to see him deal with bottom lip sulkers like Ronaldo, Martial and Sancho.
 
ESPN are spot on about Utd....



ESPN consistently have the best Premier League coverage. A lot more insightful than the clowns we have on UK telly.

Also I did have a chuckle at them having a photo of Ronaldo in place of the United badge…someone in their graphics department is having a laugh I reckon.
 
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I hate to rush to the defence of Scudamore but plenty of people seem to focus on the bits they want in that quote and conspicuously ignore the bits that don’t suit. My reading of it was that united are good for the PL commercially (which they indisputably were, and to a lesser extent, are) but they are running a competition and that the former shouldn’t therefore supersede the latter. Are you suggesting that in stating that united were commercially good for the PL Scudamore was saying something that was untrue? It seems he was stating something that was correct to me, and something, given his role, he was entitled to have a view on.

In any event, it’s now an anachronistic quote that no longer has any meaningful probative value.

Are you still going to be deploying it in another seven years when united still haven’t won the league as evidence of bias in favour of united?

Not saying they don’t get favourable decisions or there isn’t bias in their favour, but that quote, or rather your interpretation of it, has manifestly not produced a corollary of success for united. They have palpably declined as a force since it was uttered.

imo, and fwiw, its a ineffective tool to advance your argument and there are better means for you to do so.
Ooo get her.

Love it when you're in Leonard Sachs mode.
 
There is only so much footballing governance (PiGMOL/FA/PL/UEFA) can do to help without making it obvious that they are being treated differently to other teams on occasions and that penny is starting to drop with them now. But given the gushing praise from BT after last nights latest false dawn it's going to take a very long time for the media to realise that they are no longer the cash cow they once were.
I think there’s a clear distinction between the two though. The media don’t have the same overriding obligation to treat everybody equally and they manifestly don’t. Their entire business model is predicated upon inequality. It would be strange for a commercial media organisation to give as much air time etc.. to Burnley as united. So despite a thin veneer of non-bias, the truth is that certain clubs must get preferential treatment to satisfy subscribers and advertisers.

The PL’s commercial success is founded, as much as anything, on the integrity of the competition, and any meaningful evidence to undermine that would seriously damage the value of the brand, which is why I don’t understand why you (and others) jump with such gusto on the quote from Scudamore at some event in South Africa, read from a prepared script, with the media present, as some sort of silver bullet.

Do you think, as PL chairman, a role he had fulfilled successfully, growing the value of the brand, he was going to intentionally say something to undermine all that work? Do you think he was sending out a coded message to fans of other clubs to let them know what they were up to? Do you think he went off script?

It seems to me he was stating something which was true, but qualifying it by saying that the integrity of the competition was paramount.

Whether he truly believed that is another matter, but to latch into it, and misrepresent it as overwhelming proof of bias in favour of united isn’t fair or accurate and therefore, as I’ve previously stated (fwiw), an ineffective weapon to advance your argument of bias.

He said what he said and the notion it was meant to mean anything other than what I interpret it as, doesn’t stand up to any objective or logical scrutiny.
 
I hate to rush to the defence of Scudamore but plenty of people seem to focus on the bits they want in that quote and conspicuously ignore the bits that don’t suit. My reading of it was that united are good for the PL commercially (which they indisputably were, and to a lesser extent, are) but they are running a competition and that the former shouldn’t therefore supersede the latter. Are you suggesting that in stating that united were commercially good for the PL Scudamore was saying something that was untrue? It seems he was stating something that was correct to me, and something, given his role, he was entitled to have a view on.

In any event, it’s now an anachronistic quote that no longer has any meaningful probative value.

Are you still going to be deploying it in another seven years when united still haven’t won the league as evidence of bias in favour of united?

Not saying they don’t get favourable decisions or there isn’t bias in their favour, but that quote, or rather your interpretation of it, has manifestly not produced a corollary of success for united. They have palpably declined as a force since it was uttered.

imo, and fwiw, its a ineffective tool to advance your argument and there are better means for you to do so.

Very impressive case you put forward GDM but I always thought a defence needed to start with

“I put it to you”
 
I can never understand how they can even file annual financial reports with the Cayman Islands being 'off grid' yet ours get examined with a fine tooth comb.

Well we should move all our dealing over to the Caymans islands and you know why!?

Well within a week they’ll bring a rule in that will say football clubs in premier are not allowed to have any bank accounts related to your football club in the Cayman Islands
 
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