United Thread - 2021/22

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Treated the bereaved families appallingly then years later milked the event for all its worth when they realised they could make money out of it.

I spoke to Jackie Blanchflower's son Andrew a few years ago and he said his dad went to his grave a bitter man on how he was treated after the plane crash.

Here's an excerpt I found online. -

There is however one aspect of the crash that is often airbrushed out of memory, namely United’s treatment of those players seriously injured in the crash. In 2002, Harry Greggs, United’s goalkeeper at the time of the crash published his autobiography entitled ‘Harry’s Game’. Harry had played hero the night of the crash, saving many lives when he bravely decided to risk his own life in pulling survivors from the wreckage.

One of the lucky survivors, Harry returned playing after Munich and was part of the Busby revival in the 1960s. Greggs was a United man through and through. He even acted as a coach and scout for the Red Devils in his retirement. Despite his allegiances to the club, Greggs revealed some uncomfortable truths about the aftermath of Munich.

Jackie Blanchflower, the Northern Ireland defender, was the first to suffer from United’s ill treatment. When it became clear to the club that Blanchflower would never play football again, the club soon cut ties with the man from Belfast. First they withdrew his taxi rights, a crippling blow for a man who struggled to walk after Munich.

Next, Blanchflower was evicted from his club accommodation despite his wife being heavily pregnant at the time. The Reds were quick to cut away those players who were no longer of use. Blanchflower wasn’t the only victim of such ill-treatment either. The Reds withdrew rented accommodation for all the survivors who couldn’t play football again.

Johnny Berry was evicted from his club house and was later fired by United through a letter. Albert Scanlon, another survivor badly affected by the disaster played with United for a short time in the aftermath of Munich before being transferred to Newcastle. Busby allegedly told Scanlon that if he ever fell on hard times Busby would help him out. When Scanlon did turn to Busby, his pleas seemingly fell on deaf ears. Anger at Scanlon’s treatment still affects Albert’s family.

Often ex-players were left to depend upon the kindness of United fans and not the club. In a sign of good will many taxi drivers in Manchester offered the men free transportation. Such respect was not given by United.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Former interim manager Ralf Rangnick will not take up his two-year consultancy role at Manchester United.

The 63-year-old German will instead concentrate on his new job in charge of Austria.
The consultancy role was agreed as part of Rangnick's arrival at Old Trafford in December. He was replaced by Erik ten Hag at the end of the season.

Asked this week about Rangnick's likely input, Ten Hag said the decision was United's.

Rangnick confirmed the news at his unveiling as Austria manager on Sunday.

A United statement read: "By mutual agreement, Ralf will now focus solely on his new role as manager of the Austria national team and will not therefore be taking up a consultancy role at Old Trafford."

Rangnick was appointed by United until the end of the season, taking over after Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's sacking.

United won only 38% of their games under Rangnick, the worst win percentage of any United manager in the Premier League era and the club's worst for 50 years.

They qualified for the Europa League by finishing sixth in the table.

This is yet more proof of the total lack of cohesion and planning at Man United. It's like a modern day version of Swales in the 80s with all those managers, John Maddock etc. The total opposite to us.

 

[mexico1970]

Former interim manager Ralf Rangnick will not take up his two-year consultancy role at Manchester United.

The 63-year-old German will instead concentrate on his new job in charge of Austria.
The consultancy role was agreed as part of Rangnick's arrival at Old Trafford in December. He was replaced by Erik ten Hag at the end of the season.

Asked this week about Rangnick's likely input, Ten Hag said the decision was United's.

Rangnick confirmed the news at his unveiling as Austria manager on Sunday.

A United statement read: "By mutual agreement, Ralf will now focus solely on his new role as manager of the Austria national team and will not therefore be taking up a consultancy role at Old Trafford."

Rangnick was appointed by United until the end of the season, taking over after Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's sacking.

United won only 38% of their games under Rangnick, the worst win percentage of any United manager in the Premier League era and the club's worst for 50 years.

They qualified for the Europa League by finishing sixth in the table.

Two years extra cash in the Godfathers bin because Ten Bob didn't want him stinking the place up :)

 

[Protein Junkie]

The BBC ask “Is Rag Nick exit a sign of progress or more muddled thinking ?”
Hmm it’s the latter but put a positive spin on it eh ?

 

[dario2739]

He knows he's fucked it when his own stupid fucking co-hosts want nothing to do with what he's said.

Yet look at the comments to his heart felt "please don't stop giving me money" apology, every one of them a disgrace:

I like his reply saying that he's done vidoes about the Munich disaster...

...it's like saying you're not racist because you have black friends!

 

[Inter Me Nan]

I like his reply saying that he's done vidoes about the Munich disaster...

...it's like saying you're not racist because you have black friends!

He knew what he was going to say was bad because he started with 'Fuck it I'm going to say it'.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

“Manchester United have told Barcelona and Netherlands midfielder Frenkie de Jong, 25, they will turn their attention elsewhere if he cannot decide whether he wants to come to Old Trafford this summer. “

I’m guessing he either wants to go to see Simply Red or Take part in Soccer Aid !

So basically the ultimatum is 'if you don't want to come we'll look elsewhere'.

 

[cleavers]

This is yet more proof of the total lack of cohesion and planning at Man United. It's like a modern day version of Swales in the 80s with all those managers, John Maddock etc. The total opposite to us.

Isn't it good ?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Some articles in The Times on their post-Ferguson decline. Free to read, so read and enjoy.

Manchester United: Debt, decay and dud decision-making – how Glazers presided over a decade of decline

It is little more than a year since one of the most remarkable protests in English football — when the security doors at Old Trafford were breached, the stadiu

www.thetimes.co.uk

Post-Ferguson?

He's still stinking the place out. That's what makes their decline even more delicious.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

This deserves a wider viewing but we,ll start here.

Ferdinand talking unbiased sense, i didn't see that coming.

Fucking hell. Surprised at that but I guess I shouldn't be.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

So basically the ultimatum is 'if you don't want to come we'll look elsewhere'.

Rag's have such an air of entitlement about them.

Why would any self-respecting decent player want to go anywhere near that cesspit?

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

A change is as good as a rest.

Almost threw me there with the different angle, mate. But I guess shit is shit which ever way you look at it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

How was Munich a disaster for United?
Munich was a tragedy on so many levels for the victims and their families but United turned it into a PR opportunity and used it to gain sympathy and fans.
They exploit it to this day.

I spent a while yesterday trying to post something like this.

Obviously it was a huge tragedy at the time and nothing can replace the lives lost.

However, it put them in the map globally in a time where it was hard to do so and they’ve benefitted from it every single year since.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

A change is as good as a rest.

You're doing god's work sir.

 

[M18CTID]

Even for that fat **** Howson this is shocking

On the one hand I'm surprised but on the other hand I'm not because he's been such a horrible **** that it's clear he's always had it in him to say something so crass.

I'm struggling to think of the last time that a football fan scored such a monumental own goal and the best comparison I can remember was that poster on RAWK who compared Roy Hodgson's Liverpool tenure to the Hillsborough disaster. Cue a RAWK meltdown of epic proportions with the moderators allegedly publicising his personal details, which led to the poster claiming that his account had been hacked (yeah right!), which in turn led to RAWK back-tracking furiously and also being given an excuse to pin the blame elsewhere. So with zero evidence whatsoever they blamed it on one of the Red Cafe members all because a United fan had posted a screenshot of the offending post in their RAWK Meltdown thread!

 

[TheBlueDune]

The BBC ask “Is Rag Nick exit a sign of progress or more muddled thinking ?”
Hmm it’s the latter but put a positive spin on it eh ?

While giving Shteve McLaaren a job. Another throwback to distant history.
Another GPC agent in the camp.

 

[East Level 2]

I thought I'd found the pisscan's lair but apparently there's a doctor in Shropshire with GPC on his/her number plate.

 

[Blue Mist]

I spoke to Jackie Blanchflower's son Andrew a few years ago and he said his dad went to his grave a bitter man on how he was treated after the plane crash.

Here's an excerpt I found online. -

There is however one aspect of the crash that is often airbrushed out of memory, namely United’s treatment of those players seriously injured in the crash. In 2002, Harry Greggs, United’s goalkeeper at the time of the crash published his autobiography entitled ‘Harry’s Game’. Harry had played hero the night of the crash, saving many lives when he bravely decided to risk his own life in pulling survivors from the wreckage.

One of the lucky survivors, Harry returned playing after Munich and was part of the Busby revival in the 1960s. Greggs was a United man through and through. He even acted as a coach and scout for the Red Devils in his retirement. Despite his allegiances to the club, Greggs revealed some uncomfortable truths about the aftermath of Munich.

Jackie Blanchflower, the Northern Ireland defender, was the first to suffer from United’s ill treatment. When it became clear to the club that Blanchflower would never play football again, the club soon cut ties with the man from Belfast. First they withdrew his taxi rights, a crippling blow for a man who struggled to walk after Munich.

Next, Blanchflower was evicted from his club accommodation despite his wife being heavily pregnant at the time. The Reds were quick to cut away those players who were no longer of use. Blanchflower wasn’t the only victim of such ill-treatment either. The Reds withdrew rented accommodation for all the survivors who couldn’t play football again.

Johnny Berry was evicted from his club house and was later fired by United through a letter. Albert Scanlon, another survivor badly affected by the disaster played with United for a short time in the aftermath of Munich before being transferred to Newcastle. Busby allegedly told Scanlon that if he ever fell on hard times Busby would help him out. When Scanlon did turn to Busby, his pleas seemingly fell on deaf ears. Anger at Scanlon’s treatment still affects Albert’s family.

Often ex-players were left to depend upon the kindness of United fans and not the club. In a sign of good will many taxi drivers in Manchester offered the men free transportation. Such respect was not given by United.

Like Heysel, airbrushed from the history books.

 

[Clevers]

Isn't it good ?

Especially as the Glaser's will be harder to dislodge.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

You're doing god's work sir.

No, you're doing gods work sir. Well you will be when the season starts; )