United Thread - 2021/22

[radcliffe1309]

Would their fans be ok with a couple of seasons in mid-table like Arsenal? Would their fans be ok with a long-term drought like we went through after 1990? See there's no god-given right for them to have to have been on top forever.

Their fans want the shiny object, and they revel in being the "biggest club in the world" or whatever (shirt sales) so really is it not a good fit with the commercial ethos of them being as much of a "brand" (ugh) as a football club? I feel they would probably feel that signing a player like Cancelo, Rodri or Jota was actually beneath them, they'd never make those signings. A "club of their stature" needs to be signing the best English right-back in the game (Wan-Bissaka), the best Brazilian midfield name available (Fred) and the best English attacking name available (Sancho). They're basically about names. Very much loud car with loud exhaust overspeeding down the city street energy.

Good analogy

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

It wasn't that long ago that chief rag sycophant Henry Winters was promoting Marcus Rashford doing three sessions a day in a bid to regaining fitness.




More like three sessions of how to run down a blind alley.

to be fair, 2.5 of them were on brand management and how to make empty gestures on social issues for marketing clout.

 

[Fordyboy46]

Cleverley was the best thing since sliced bread, straight into the England team - downhill ever since.

They always have the potential best players in the world, Macheda being another example who vanished without trace, Luke Chadwick was another and so on and so on, pmsl

 

[ysmsa]

Bet you were one of the many that would have taken the shit Danny Wellbeck ie Rashford a couple of years back ;)

Tbf Wellbeck is probably the best of the 3 but injuries did for him.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Folks that want Greenwood, or would have him at least, strike me as the kind that would have taken Martial at one point..

Martial a total flop at United and no great shakes before he joined them. Totally over-rated with just two goals in 30 appearances for France. I always thought he was a lightweight. It's too early to say with Greenwod. He looks like a decent finisher but the rest of his game such as his positional awareness and decision-making is average.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I actually thought that Rangnick would be a decent appointment for them, assuming anyone with a bit of tactical nous would be an upgrade on Solskjaer, but incredibly they’re probably in a worse state now than they were six weeks ago. There’s been virtually no new manager “bounce”. He doesn’t seem to have the charisma to get the players or fans behind him, and is undermined by the uncertainty over his future. The “consultancy role” was always a bit vague and weird. They’re absolutely fucked at the moment, and it’s beautiful to watch it all unravel.

Rangnick has a shockingly poor record in the Bundesliga where he has never managed an elite team. That's why he ended up at Moscow. Another one who has been hyped as "the Godfather of German football." He is totally out of his depth at United.

 

[Kippax77]

It wasn't that long ago that chief rag sycophant Henry Winters was promoting Marcus Rashford doing three sessions a day in a bid to regaining fitness.




More like three sessions daily of how to run down a blind alley.

Does this guy ever smile?
I know it can't be fun playing for the rags, but Sire Marcus is one miserable looking so and so

 

[cheekybids]

They really don't have the squad (midfield) to play high pressing energetic football, but I do think they'll improve under him by the end of the season.


Klopp only won 1 of his first 5 and something like 5 out of his first 19. Then it finally clicked for them and they were suddenly a Klopp side and had some very good games, got the Europa final and the season after they were pretty much what they are now minus VVD.

Nedum Onuaha made a really good point that I've seen repeated elsewhere now that if he doesn't get them top 4 he's really going to lose any authority to have the DOF role they have planned out for him so this multi year plan might be over really soon.

That formation has to be scrapped as well - we won the league playing Pellegrini's 4-2-2-2 in 2014 but we had Fernandinho-Yaya as the midfield two. They have McTominay and Fred.

Only in previous seasons 4-2-2-2 was called a 4-4-2, this bloke is marketing bullshit. FFS it’s not revolutionary wanting fullbacks to play high.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Their problem is the players. Not in a sense of technique as all seem to be good individually, but it’s more of a mind-set and where you can clearly see that we have done our homework with regard to character, they have just gone along with who is the flavour of the month.

Whichever manager is there, the first thing they need to achieve is to convince the players that they are all equal, regardless of pay.

 

[lasereyes]

Apologies if posted already and primarily about Lukaku, but nails a key difference between us and the Scum

MARTIN SAMUEL: Chelsea would have been MAD to back Lukaku over Tuchel

CHIEF SPORTS WRITER: There is a reason Pep Guardiola did not push Man City to complete the signing of Cristiano Ronaldo. Every man, no matter how talented, left his ego at the door.

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