United Thread - 2021/22

[manimanc]

“I was 20 the last time we won the Premier League and next year I’ll be 30, should that really happen?!”

With Rags, it’s that collective lack of understanding that things don’t last forever and that they’ve never been a club who’ve always been at the top, that gets me.

Outside Magnall, Busby, and Ferguson, United have only won five trophies and for the most part outside those three managers they’ve just been any old run-of-the-mill English football club. Mostly in the First Division/Premier League not doing much, sometimes in the Second Division, at times getting average league attendances of 11,000 and individual league attendances of 3,000, and going bust. That’s why Gary Neville saying, last year, that “Manchester United are the grandfathers of English football” was such a fucking stupid comment!

This attitude where they think they should be up the top of the league challenging is utter fucking delusion. Whenever United haven’t had a decent manager in place, whenever there have been better run clubs than them, they haven’t ever really been a club up there challenging.

This is actually true of all clubs in English football. English football doesn’t really have any clubs who are, far and away, out of reach of the rest of the pack when it comes to success. 20 league titles isn’t that many, in future decades there could be a few clubs up at that level, because it’s not overly dominant. There aren't any clubs in England who have always been up at the top, always challenging, always winning something every few years. And I don’t think there ever will be. This is what makes English football the best! There are far too many decent clubs with decent potential for any club in England to just always be dominant like a Rangers/Celtic or Nacional/Peñarol situation where they’ve all won over 100 trophies each and always been the dominant clubs in Scotland and Uruguay. England’s top clubs have always and will always be fluctuating and it would only take a decent few decades for any club to catch anyone else up. Because that’s all United (and Liverpool) ever really had to put them where they are in their own standing; a few good decades. Away from that, they’ve just been clubs like any other.

There have been other eras where clubs were dominant, only for their time at the top to come to an end and these clubs fall away from the top. Villa, Sunderland, Everton… Arsenal had a few goes, Liverpool had their turn, United had theirs… City and Chelsea are in their great eras now… in future decades Newcastle, Leeds, Spurs, and West Ham could be the clubs who takeover at the top if they get the right investment and use it well with the right boardrooms and right managers/players, because they certainly all have the potential to… that would be reasonable to think would happen because that’s how English football has always worked.

This notion that not winning or challenging for the title isn’t good enough for United is completely out of touch with the reality of English football.

Fantastic that mate.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Can I ask a question, a few years ago the away fan rule was brought in by the PL, where opposition fans had to b pitchside. The 2 teams (off the top of my head) that didn't do this were Newcastle & Manchester United.

Just having a quick Google and Newcastle were granted an indefinite exemption due to safety concerns between fans, but what about Manchester United, as surely where away fans are is not classed as pitchside?

Their disabled section is below the away section, and they already don’t cater for enough disabled supporters so can’t move it.

But I think United’s away section is probably the best view from any away section in the country. This “pitch-side” away fans thing isn’t a particularly good thing. You travel miles sometimes just to be provided with an awful view. There’s nothing worse than being stuck on Row A behind a goal like you are at so many grounds where you can’t even see the ball or even from the knees down of players up the other end of the pitch or the goal posts/nets are in the way of your view.

At least at Old Trafford you’re a bit further back and in the corner. That’s why so many sets of fans create a great a good atmosphere there as well because corners are always best for atmospheres.

 

[mexico1970]

Don’t forget Phil “he could be as good as Duncan Edwards” Jones.

Is Phil Jones the new Duncan Edwards?

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

UTD Podcast: Ben Thornley treasures George Best comparison

Manchester United Class of '92 star Ben Thornley said he was humbled to learn Nobby Stiles had compared him to George Best.

www.manutd.com

Ravel Morrison: how Manchester United's best talent since George Best lost his way

Ravel Morrison could beat any player on the pitch, but couldn't defeat his inner demons off it. Here's the story of his Manchester United career

www.gq-magazine.co.uk

Adnan Januzaj flair invokes the spirit of George Best at Manchester

Moyes gives the frail United youngster his league debut 50 years after legend’s first game

www.independent.co.uk

They embarrass themselves.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

UTD Podcast: Ben Thornley treasures George Best comparison

Manchester United Class of '92 star Ben Thornley said he was humbled to learn Nobby Stiles had compared him to George Best.

www.manutd.com

Ravel Morrison: how Manchester United's best talent since George Best lost his way

Ravel Morrison could beat any player on the pitch, but couldn't defeat his inner demons off it. Here's the story of his Manchester United career

www.gq-magazine.co.uk

Adnan Januzaj flair invokes the spirit of George Best at Manchester

Moyes gives the frail United youngster his league debut 50 years after legend’s first game

www.independent.co.uk

They embarrass themselves.

They do.

However, it’s fucking rubbed off on us and we’ve started doing it (take a look at the McAtee thread… apparently, he’s the next David Silva!).

 

[mexico1970]

They do.

However, it’s fucking rubbed off on us and we’ve started doing it (take a look at the McAtee thread!).

We've got time to stop it before it becomes entrenched :)

The two players that invoke the lovable Bestie are Giggs and Greenwood, not for their football more for their backhands.

 

[jrb]

We should give them one day off today for understandable reasons.

After all, they did take the ticker banner down on the Benjani anniversary.(and put it straight back up the next day)

 

[Edward Deadwood]

Sponsored by teamviewer?

I saw first hand their mural commemorating 50 years was sponsored by AIG. If anything ever summed up that club …?

 

[waspish]

They do.

However, it’s fucking rubbed off on us and we’ve started doing it (take a look at the McAtee thread… apparently, he’s the next David Silva!).

It’s always natural to to do that. He will score more goals than silva if he stays with us for his career

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

We should give them one day off today for understandable reasons.

After all, they did take the ticker banner down on the Benjani anniversary.(and put it straight back up the next day)

If they deserved a day off I'd be happy to give 'em one. Alas, they don't!

 

[JASR]

From the left:
Time travelling permed scouser supporting his new favourite history club.
Extremely short MiB wanabee.
A young long haired Richard Osman realizes that he's made the wrong choice of team picked when he started watching football.