United Thread - 2021/22

[blue cigar]

What was the attendance there last night? Can’t find it anywhere surprisingly!

It was capacity, Tom Heaton said so in his interview. Biggest club in the world.....

 

[edinburgh123]

their next 5 league games are norwich, brentford, brighton, newcastle, burnley, that sould see em in the top 4

Thats almost what we want. Then Ralf gets a 5 year contract followed by a month later when they meet all the good teams again and get battered again

 

[Protein Junkie]

According to the BBC they had a youthful team out. Starting 11 average age of 25 is not really youthful!!

They really as credible as Bozo at no10.
Every man and his dog knew it was a dead rubber.
They the highly rated Henderson in goal. All back four starting were experienced. An 80m million midfielder along with young Jessie and Mata.
Also a striker who has made 75 appearances and spent £20m plus on that Armadillo bloke.
Youthful nitid yeah right ffs

 

[Blootoof]

Far too much pro United stuff in the media again, so I'l try sending this to the Premier League again. This will be for the third time, no repsonse to the last two sent so don't hold your breath...

I would like to enquire whether there is any outstanding investigation, or whether any investigation at all was conducted, into the postponement of two Manchester United Home matches in recent years.

The first in May 2016 agisnt Bournemouth, due to a 'dummy' bomb being found in the toilets at Old Trafford. The second more recently in May 2021 against Liverpool due to protests held by Manchester United supporters against the club owners which saw these fans compromise ground secuirty by breaking into Old Trafford.

Greater Manchester Mayor and Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Lloyd stated of the first incident that it caused massive inconvenience to supporters who had come from far and wide to watch the match, wasted the time of huge numbers of police officers and the army's bomb squad and unnecessarily put people in danger.

Regarding the second incident, a Premier League statement acknowledged endangering of safety and regulation breaches by stating that "the the security and safety of everyone at Old Trafford remains of paramount importance. We understand and respect the strength of feeling but condemn all acts of violence, criminal damage and trespass, especially given the associated COVID-19 breaches"

Despite there I can find no evidence of an investigation into how the same club came to have two massive security failures that led to match cancellations and potentially endangered lives, and what, if anything, has been put in place by this club to prevent such security issues in the future, which otherwise could again lead to match cancellations and unsafe conditions.

According to the Premier League Handbook, rule K14 states that the home club must make sure that the players and match officials can enter and leave the stadium safely and that there is safe environment in which to play the match. Rule K13 also states that the players’ entrance as well as the parking area and the points of entry are adequately policed or stewarded. Regulation E20 says that clubs are responsible for their supporters and may be punished for any improper, violent, threatening, abusive, indecent behaviour, including the throwing of missiles.

It would seem that there must be questions over whether these rules were adhered to by Manchester Unmited sufficiently. Was an investigation started to review the incidents and to make recommendations to improve the situation?

All you need to write is:

"Fuckoff you bent c@nts!"

Straight to the point, and they'll read it all before sending it to the bin. In fact, they might even show the other clowns in Bent Towers with it being a bit wacky. Win, win.

 

[bluetonium]

All you need to write is:

"Fuckoff you bent c@nts!"

Straight to the point, and they'll read it all before sending it to the bin. In fact, they might even show the other clowns in Bent Towers with it being a bit wacky. Win, win.

True. But I'd genuinely like to know if they ever did anything (we know they probably didn't). Even if they worked it out with the clubs, public safety was put at risk so surely they are answerable for that?

 

[hertsblue]

They really as credible as Bozo at no10.
Every man and his dog knew it was a dead rubber.
They the highly rated Henderson in goal. All back four starting were experienced. An 80m million midfielder along with young Jessie and Mata.
Also a striker who has made 75 appearances and spent £20m plus on that Armadillo bloke.
Youthful nitid yeah right ffs

They had no more than 3 players under the age of 24 on the pitch at any time until the 89th minute. Starting 11 cost around 280 million

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

True. But I'd genuinely like to know if they ever did anything (we know they probably didn't). Even if they worked it out with the clubs, public safety was put at risk so surely they are answerable for that?

This is a really important point of principle. I wonder if one could get an MP using Parliamentary privilege to raise it. It is important because of precedent.
Aside from the security risk and criminal damage, Liverpool got Top 4 by a couple of points which included comfortably winning at the Swamp in the rearranged game. Who knows what effect the postponement had not just on the Dippers but on rivals for the Top 4?
What is there to stop another team's fans "protesting" against their owners or something else causing a game to be postponed?
What about the role of Ratboy and sky essentially supporting criminal damage.
This is an appalling dereliction of duty by the Premier League/FA.

For those who don't remember let me just outline the accusation:
Manchester United fans illegally broke into Old Trafford and its interior, including the pitch, caused criminal damage and through weight of numbers inside and outside caused the postponement of a PL match. Furthermore, several Police Officers were injured in associated public disorder. National broadcasters (who had their equipment damaged) had Gary Neville and Spitboy inside the ground both publicly supporting the disorder and, by implication, the criminality.

I wonder if this would have been trated differently if it was another team other than the Rags or Dippers?

 

[shemnel]

What was the attendance there last night? Can’t find it anywhere surprisingly!

officially 73k. Looking at the game I think more like 70k. pretty full anyway.

 

[Gray]

BBC and their "Youthful Team", utter tripe.

 

[LongsightM13]

Far too much pro United stuff in the media again, so I'l try sending this to the Premier League again. This will be for the third time, no repsonse to the last two sent so don't hold your breath...

I would like to enquire whether there is any outstanding investigation, or whether any investigation at all was conducted, into the postponement of two Manchester United Home matches in recent years.

The first in May 2016 agisnt Bournemouth, due to a 'dummy' bomb being found in the toilets at Old Trafford. The second more recently in May 2021 against Liverpool due to protests held by Manchester United supporters against the club owners which saw these fans compromise ground secuirty by breaking into Old Trafford.

Greater Manchester Mayor and Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Lloyd stated of the first incident that it caused massive inconvenience to supporters who had come from far and wide to watch the match, wasted the time of huge numbers of police officers and the army's bomb squad and unnecessarily put people in danger.

Regarding the second incident, a Premier League statement acknowledged endangering of safety and regulation breaches by stating that "the the security and safety of everyone at Old Trafford remains of paramount importance. We understand and respect the strength of feeling but condemn all acts of violence, criminal damage and trespass, especially given the associated COVID-19 breaches"

Despite there I can find no evidence of an investigation into how the same club came to have two massive security failures that led to match cancellations and potentially endangered lives, and what, if anything, has been put in place by this club to prevent such security issues in the future, which otherwise could again lead to match cancellations and unsafe conditions.

According to the Premier League Handbook, rule K14 states that the home club must make sure that the players and match officials can enter and leave the stadium safely and that there is safe environment in which to play the match. Rule K13 also states that the players’ entrance as well as the parking area and the points of entry are adequately policed or stewarded. Regulation E20 says that clubs are responsible for their supporters and may be punished for any improper, violent, threatening, abusive, indecent behaviour, including the throwing of missiles.

It would seem that there must be questions over whether these rules were adhered to by Manchester Unmited sufficiently. Was an investigation started to review the incidents and to make recommendations to improve the situation?

And not a single one of the ‘crack investigative journalists’ who crawl all over every trivial allegation against our club, no matter how outlandish, has written a word about such an apparent tap-in