United Thread - 2022/23

[SebastianBlue]

You are not blaming the keeper for his poor decision making and distribution skills, in a mistake leading to a goal due to poor distribution and decision making skills? :/

As much as I hate agreeing with the likes of Goldberg, if you are under instructions to play out of the back, then there is nothing wrong with that pass, especially as Maguire was calling for the ball and, as we see with Pep’s tactics, passing in to a player on the centre edge of the box with opposition closing, and for them to then make good decision to layoff the ball wide, is often the best way to beat the press.

Ultimately, the blame resides with Maguire, who had plenty of space to take the ball and turn—as Rodri, Bernardo, Stones, and even Kev have done many times when the defenders over press and the layoff isn’t on—which would have opened the pitch right up. And on Ten Hag for instructing his team to play system that a few of them, including Maguire, simply do not suit.

Maguire is decent with the ball at his feet facing forward, outside of his box, and has space ahead of him to dribble. What he has never shown to be particularly good at is the quick one two/touch passing and decision making facing his own goal.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Where did you make this discovery?

On here - where else? - (some numpties were name checking posters off here - not sure which thread).



Found it.

- YouTube

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[The Black Shed]

I think de Gea has cost them so many goals over the past two or three seasons, he may be a good shot stopper, when they’re straight at him, mind you, but there’s been many times when he’s cost utd goals.

I honestly think that United would have been relegation material had it not been for some of De Gea's heroics over the years. There's a reason he has been player of the season for them a couplè of times. But ueah, he can't pass for toffee, even Allison is better!

 

[danielwood5]

Paddy Power really don't pull any punches, great stuff.

 

[goalmole]

Do you?

Never forget the banner.
What goes round, comes round.
Fuck 'em.

 

[burning blue soul]

As much as I hate agreeing with the likes of Goldberg, if you are under instructions to play out of the back, then there is nothing wrong with that pass, especially as Maguire was calling for the ball and, as we see with Pep’s tactics, passing in to a player on the centre edge of the box with opposition closing, and for them to then make good decision to layoff the ball wide, is often the best way to beat the press.

Ultimately, the blame resides with Maguire, who had plenty of space to take the ball and turn—as Rodri, Bernardo, Stones, and even Kev have done many times when the defenders over press and the layoff isn’t on—which would have opened the pitch right up. And on Ten Hag for instructing his team to play system that a few of them, including Maguire, simply do not suit.

Maguire is decent with the ball at his feet facing forward, outside of his box, and has space ahead of him to dribble. What he has never shown to be particularly good at is the quick one two/touch passing and decision making facing his own goal.

With regard to the Harry and David show. It is my understanding in football that passing is a decision made by the passer, not the passee. The passer, predominantly, has a fair view of the situation in front of him and decides which option to take.
The receiver has spacial awareness, but can be blindsided in some instances.
That is why this 1st rag goal conceded was fully the fault of the goalkeeper who could see clearly the players converging on Harry.
2nd, also goalkeeper, and 3rd, yet again the goalkeeper.
David had a fucking mare!!!!!

Ultimately, every mistake made by any footballer is that players managers fault.
But here you have a good old classic 'shit bit of play'.
We had them fuck ups in the early days of Pep, and technically, it is Peps decision to play that way so his responsibility, same as poundland Pep at utd.
If the player cannot pass a ball accurately under pressure, then that player is eligible for criticism for he is a professional footballer.

 

[blue for life]

No sympathy for these when you consider how they took the piss in their glory days! Karma is a woman!

 

[SebastianBlue]

@burning blue soul So we split the decision. ;-)

 

[goalmole]

Genius. 1.3bn Catholics worldwide. If they all put in £5 each they can return the club to fan ownership and buy mbappe, kane and Bellingham this summer.

Do you think the Pope is going to let them do that when it could be him getting all those fivers?

 

[aguero93:20]

still think when I picture us playing out in that situation, the problem isn't the pass. However, for us it would usually be Rodri or Gundo, possibly Stones or Bernardo picking the ball up there. Usually a midfielder while the centre backs are still deeper.

That's the key part there, our deeper players would be moving to make passing options before the pass was played.