United Thread - 2022/23

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Blue Mist said:
He's worth 4 billion not 12. If he bought he would have to borrow. He has stated he has no interest in owning a minority stake.
The Glazers have said they might sell a minority stake so where is the story ?
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Exactly! There isn't one except to keep the Rags in the spotlight and to massage the fans egos - Glazers happy to sell a stake, they can say they are listening to the fans, Billionaire shows "interest" but can't afford them (unless as you say he borrows or there is a consortium) both means the Rags are in the same boat with different owners. Any Billionaire will see this as a way to make money, they will invest like the Glazers have (hugely) but also take out just as much. Rags don't seem to remember that they were one of the first teams to float on the stock market, that hugely helped them spend and win trophies (coupled with the new cash cow of the premier league) and since the day they floated they have been an investment and not a football club to their owners, we are so so lucky having the owners we do
 
manimanc said:
Would it not be easier to name players utd are not after?

Scattergun R us.
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I can only imagine murtough has printed out the FIFA players for each position in best stats order, and is slowly working his way down each list stack, crossing them off, one at a time - either unavailable or snubbed each time.

Similar to how Rangnick was got by going down the list of best managers, till he got lucky at number 15

Football Club Elo Ratings

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edit: Note: Ten Hag is 189th...
 
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Robinho's Subbuteo said:
Surely Ratcliffe wouldn't be sending £4-5Bn if the Glazers are only interested in selling a 10% stake in the club?
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It’s not worth 4bn, whatever the share price says. A buyer would need to spend 2bn to pay off debt, put the toilet to rights and protect his investment with a whole new team. So 2bn is nearer the mark and Glazers would not accept that. Jim Radcliffe deal is a non starter. It would need an American, an Arab, an Indian, or a Chinese with more money than sense to pull it off.
Note: Other rich nationalities are available.
 
It’s imperative that these wankers fail to get top 4 again this season. Even if they do get a new owner they‘ll then find it harder to sign anyone decent.
 
Blue Mist said:
He's worth 4 billion not 12. If he bought he would have to borrow. He has stated he has no interest in owning a minority stake.
The Glazers have said they might sell a minority stake so where is the story ?
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I can’t work out why you just keep lying about this?

He's worth 4 billion not 12.
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Says who? Because the people who track these things have his net worth as $13Bn (Forbes) or £15bn (British papers) in 2022

He has stated he has no interest in owning a minority stake.
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No he hasn’t! This is just entirely made up. He’s said via his spokesman he’d like to buy a minority stake with the view to increasing it later. That’s not “no interest in a minority stake”

The Glazers have said they might sell a minority stake so where is the story
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The story is that the richest man in the country has said he’d like to invest in United and their owners are open to it.


I can’t get my head around why you, and one or two others, have to go through insane mental gymnastics to deny the story is real and something might happen. Last night you were genuinely trying to argue that a United are such a great investment the Glazers could never sell, and that they’re such a shit investment no one would ever buy!

It’s not that big a deal! You don’t need to be scared and go into denial.

It probably won’t happen, if it does it’s not going to bring back the 90s, but the story is incredibly well sourced and confirmed by people representing the parties so it’s real, you can stop pretending it’s a newspaper hoax to get clicks off United fans.

Or as you tried to tell everyone last night “anonymous sources telling half pissed journalists”.
 
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radcliffe , if he gets involved, will not use his own wealth to buy utd, but he could become the figure head to attract more 'red knights' on board,

thats why knighton is throwing radcliffes name about , again using other peoples money as he tried in the past

i dont think anyone knows how much it will take for them to shift the glazers but they will probably have to add at lease another £3bn to sort out their ground, internal structure and squad and that wont be a six month job

their fans just will not have the patience to wait that long

theyve missed the boat now, they could always get by before as players would fall for the 'glamour of man u ' nonsense but now it wont wash
 
domalino said:
I can’t work out why you just keep lying about this?



Says who? Because the people who track these things have his net worth as $13Bn (Forbes) or £15bn (British papers) in 2022



No he hasn’t! This is just entirely made up. He’s said via his spokesman he’d like to buy a minority stake with the view to increasing it later. That’s not “no interest in a minority stake”



The story is that the richest man in the country has said he’d like to invest in United and their owners are open to it.


I can’t get my head around why you, and one or two others, have to go through insane mental gymnastics to deny the story is real and something might happen. Last night you were genuinely trying to argue that a United are such a great investment the Glazers could never sell, and that they’re such a shit investment no one would ever buy!

It’s not that big a deal! You don’t need to be scared and go into denial.

It probably won’t happen, if it does it’s not going to bring back the 90s, but the story is incredibly well sourced and confirmed by people representing the parties so it’s real, you can stop pretending it’s a newspaper hoax to get clicks off United fans.

Or as you tried to tell everyone last night “anonymous sources telling half pissed journalists”.
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Google him, Bloomberg say his net worth is 5.96 billion.
The rest I will leave with you except for one final thing. Don't call me a liar. It makes you look pathetic.
 
Blue Mist said:
We might be here all day. Google him, Bloomers say his net worth is 5.96 billion.
The rest I will leave with you except for one final thing. Don't call me a liar. It makes you look pathetic.
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Well stop making shit up then! It’s not that fucking hard.
 
They have to either sell now, or buckle up because of the upcoming fuckery this winter.

If the economy continue to contract at the rate it's doing, and if Putin is still a ****, this winter will be tough on the world stage.

Of course most of us don't know that much economic information as to properly discuss this ****'s riches, but as seen in previous years flouting billions in a fucked up economy is a mad man's game.

This either means they get sold now, as in this month, or the Yanks buckle up waiting for the next SL project.
 
I can't help but think that the glazers are just hedging their bets here.

If I was the owner, id probably sell some shares now to offset the loss on my investment should the club continue to fail to get CL football which as we all know means loss of revenue and some of their commercial sponsorship deals significantly reduce if they fail to have 2 consecutive seasons of no CL football

I can't see the glazers selling completely unless a ridiculous offer is made.

Put it simply, the family are still getting a decent yield on their investment and in todays world of high inflation, and low ish interest rates, where else are they going to put their cash from this sale that generates a better return.

I think this a smart move by them.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Hello, what is this all about? Genuine question. Don't follow chemicals ....

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Looks like the United share price .....
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Polymers and resins... as in the constituents of plastics? The guy makes plastics... very appropriate for the Rags haha

Also, they bang on about HR etc., but want a guy who's partially responsible for fucking up the world?
 
The other aspect that VIRTUALLY no one speaks about is the skeletons in the closets. If the Yanks are open to selling, with that much debt loaded on the club, there is something fishy as fuck going on over there. 17 years and you just chilled, and all of a sudden you're like "Yeah boys, open season, show me the moneeeey".

Interesting as well, 17 years, 600 million debt. I wonder what shite are the yanks hiding in the basement.
 
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