United Thread - 2022/23

[MafeotulBlue]

Yep, but I meant the drop in his net worth over the last twelve months .....

These companies can yoyo how much they want, it's not actual capital it's just speculative. #

As an F1 fan, I can tell you long life Merc Fans, were very unhappy with his 33% stake when it happened. They were calling him a bad mojo, and in general a very bad owner in sporting. ( see historical failures )

It was a bad sign, and personally I still don't get his investment at that level. Now he wants another stake in the scums. Started smelling like actual money laundering.

 

[MafeotulBlue]

God i despise their guts, I hope they get fucking pummelled Monday.

 

[crazyg]

£110m bid for Felix turned down.

They're now putting in a bid of £500m for the Land of Oz's feared strike force of the Lion, the Scarecrow and the Tin Man. Toto says he's not interested and Dorothy is unwilling to comment.

 

[waspish]

I can’t work out why you just keep lying about this?



Says who? Because the people who track these things have his net worth as $13Bn (Forbes) or £15bn (British papers) in 2022



No he hasn’t! This is just entirely made up. He’s said via his spokesman he’d like to buy a minority stake with the view to increasing it later. That’s not “no interest in a minority stake”



The story is that the richest man in the country has said he’d like to invest in United and their owners are open to it.


I can’t get my head around why you, and one or two others, have to go through insane mental gymnastics to deny the story is real and something might happen. Last night you were genuinely trying to argue that a United are such a great investment the Glazers could never sell, and that they’re such a shit investment no one would ever buy!

It’s not that big a deal! You don’t need to be scared and go into denial.

It probably won’t happen, if it does it’s not going to bring back the 90s, but the story is incredibly well sourced and confirmed by people representing the parties so it’s real, you can stop pretending it’s a newspaper hoax to get clicks off United fans.

Or as you tried to tell everyone last night “anonymous sources telling half pissed journalists”.

Only thing real about it is the media pushing it! Bet he hasn’t even spoke to Glazers to make a proposal but we will see in the next few weeks, we know this will be in the media for a long time while the rags are bottom half of the league..

My guess Glazers will sell a stake to someone who will give them a much needed cash injection and want a return, they’ll come out with we going to improve the stadium we going listen to the fans we going to invest the squad!

It’s all smoke and mirrors…

 

[dario2739]

For money now rather than later, removal of investment requirement (team/stadium/etc) and to be away from ‘the hassle’. Pretty much the reasons most owners sell their business.

Only question is; will the buyers pay what the sellers want.

I can get that... but question is how much would they be worth now, and how much of that would be an actual cash pay-out to the Glazer family?
Throwing around multi-billion quotes for them is fine, but how much of that will the Glazers actually see... as compared to having a nice virtual cash machine they can tap from at regular intervals?
You say "the hassle", but really - how much hassle is there for them? They don't have to attend games, and live in the US... they don't have to see any of "the hassle" – the fans think they're more powerful than they are... they can boycott games, but the season tickets are already bought, the shiny new rag tops are bought... the Glazers have also increased the revenues of the club massively, despite lack of on-field success... Only relegation would seriously affect them, and the PL won't let that happen.

 

[domalino]

God i despise their guts, I hope they get fucking pummelled Monday.

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They DO spend money to rival "oil states"!

No club in Europe has spent more over the last decade.

Their issue is always competency, not money.

 

[Blue Mist]

Well stop making shit up then! It’s not that fucking hard.

Your inability to use Google is the problem. That and your inability to understand other people might have a different opinion.
This spat started with you challenging me about an opinion. Since then you seem to have gone out of your way to forensically prove I'm wrong.
I'll leave you with it I'm taking my dog for a walk on the beach.

 

[MafeotulBlue]

Your inability to use Google is the problem. That and your inability to understand other people might have a different opinion.
This spat started with you challenging me about an opinion. Since then you seem to have gone out of your way to forensically prove I'm wrong.
I'll leave you with it I'm taking my dog for a walk on the beach.

You in Brighton with Cucurella's missus?

 

[Grassland Blue]

While winning games pushing for top four and trophies! If they sell up set it all up perfectly finishing between 8th and 5th still won’t make the rags happy maybe for a season or two while the new owner buzz is still around but after that they need to deliver on the pitch! If it doesn’t happen will the rag fans be wanting another new owner?!

New managers
New owners
OLD players.
And the ship is still sinking.
In the words of another Ronald
"I'm lovin' it"!

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

My wife says that to me.

"You can think about it whilst I take the dogs out for a walk"

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I can’t work out why you just keep lying about this?



Says who? Because the people who track these things have his net worth as $13Bn (Forbes) or £15bn (British papers) in 2022



No he hasn’t! This is just entirely made up. He’s said via his spokesman he’d like to buy a minority stake with the view to increasing it later. That’s not “no interest in a minority stake”



The story is that the richest man in the country has said he’d like to invest in United and their owners are open to it.


I can’t get my head around why you, and one or two others, have to go through insane mental gymnastics to deny the story is real and something might happen. Last night you were genuinely trying to argue that a United are such a great investment the Glazers could never sell, and that they’re such a shit investment no one would ever buy!

It’s not that big a deal! You don’t need to be scared and go into denial.

It probably won’t happen, if it does it’s not going to bring back the 90s, but the story is incredibly well sourced and confirmed by people representing the parties so it’s real, you can stop pretending it’s a newspaper hoax to get clicks off United fans.

Or as you tried to tell everyone last night “anonymous sources telling half pissed journalists”.

Rag

 

[halfcenturyup]

These companies can yoyo how much they want, it's not actual capital it's just speculative. #

As an F1 fan, I can tell you long life Merc Fans, were very unhappy with his 33% stake when it happened. They were calling him a bad mojo, and in general a very bad owner in sporting. ( see historical failures )

It was a bad sign, and personally I still don't get his investment at that level. Now he wants another stake in the scums. Started smelling like actual money laundering.

Understand it's mostly just a valuation of a private group based on earnings and comparable company multiples, I was just asking in view of the discrepancy in Ratcliffe's net worth from people on here, not to mention accusations of lying. Do we think Bloomberg have got that right, and his net worth has halved in a year?

Not sure it makes sense, but it would explain why people are using different numbers .....

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

A Yonner you mean


Only good thong to come from failsworth is the hat factory ;-)

Hey!!!

Alright, fair observation...........

 

[MafeotulBlue]

Rag

I think he needs a good shag.

 

[domalino]

Rag

Oh no, you caught me. All 35,000 comments over 10 years on here were just building a cover story.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Oh no, you caught me. All 35,000 comments over 10 years on here were just building a cover story.

Dam, I knew I was right about you being a rag all this time.


8-)

 

[Bald fraud]

He's worth 4 billion not 12. If he bought he would have to borrow. He has stated he has no interest in owning a minority stake.
The Glazers have said they might sell a minority stake so where is the story ?

God knows how much he’s got someone on here said 30 billion yesterday. Either way they’re fucked

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Oh no, you caught me. All 35,000 comments over 10 years on here were just building a cover story.

That certainly is deep deep deep undercover - very dedicated............

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Oh no, you caught me. All 35,000 comments over 10 years on here were just building a cover story.

I meant misty - we had season tickets in the Stretford end together until 2012.

 

[ancoats]

Didn't the glazers come out and say last time it kicked off and say they will not be bullied into selling and will not put the club not up for sale,

like any good football club, it's time to come out fighting and earn your points the right way,
but the trouble with them cunts over the road is they have been hand fed for years, given everything possible by the officials to make life so easy and (dare you upset the apple cart)

simple answer to the problem
when somebody challenges you to a fight, you stand up and bloody fight, not phone mummy all the time,
crying bitches want to take their ball home because little old city are better than them,

they will never learn and want change all the time when it goes tits up, it's all the glazers fault ?
Sorry it's not, it's the players that can not face being 2nd best because they have been told they are world-class all the time in the media, sorry world-class players earn the right to be called world-class on the pitch and not because of a badge or club they play for,

time for the truth
it's over at united your time has gone, learn to deal with it and face up, the better players don't want to play for you any more ? So you need to stop thinking you're the mighty united and badge means something to players