United Thread - 2023/24

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Bayern Wednesday followed by a relegation 6 pointer and they said things couldn't get any worse.
Ha fuckin' ha, if they lose to Burnley........
 
hilts said:
Can't believe they haven't sold and run, no matter what manager they pick how much they spend and the rated players they buy it just turns to shit.

It's actually hard to fuck things up this much even if you are trying.

The ground is a shit hole as well.
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Money laundering or share price manipulation?

It's the only possible way any of this makes sense.
 
malg said:
He has too many fans who hang off his every word. Held up as a great commentator (I don't agree) - he's far too entrenched in one team to be even in the bracket of impartiality. I'm stunned the Rag owners haven't approached Sly Sports about his continued assault on them.
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it could be considered libellous at this point
 
deano ou812 said:
I’m sure come Monday night if Neville is on MNF that sky will give him a platform to call out the Glazers again live on TV ..
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The thing is, none of the other pundits are clever enough to challenge him.

Micah Richards, if you’re reading this, the next time Gary Neville starts talking bollocks about United, the Glazers and all that ‘we should be’, ‘this is Manchester Yoonited we’re talking about’… you have to start getting real and telling the truth.

Outside Magnall, Busby, and Ferguson, United have only won six trophies and for the most part outside those three managers they’ve just been any old run-of-the-mill English football club. Mostly in the First Division/Premier League not doing much, sometimes in the Second Division, at times getting average league attendances of 11,000 and individual league attendances of 3,000, and going bust. That’s why Gary Neville saying, the other year, that “Manchester United are the grandfathers of English football” was such a fucking stupid comment!

United’s average finishing position in the league table in English football history is 10th.

This attitude where they think they should be up the top of the league challenging is utter fucking delusion. Whenever United haven’t had a decent manager in place, whenever there have been better run clubs than them, they haven’t ever really been a club up there challenging.

This is actually true of all clubs in English football. English football doesn’t really have any clubs who are, far and away, out of reach of the rest of the pack when it comes to success. 20 league titles isn’t that many, in future decades there could be a few clubs up at that level, because it’s not overly dominant. There aren't any clubs in England who have always been up at the top, always challenging, always winning something every few years. And I don’t think there ever will be. This is what makes English football the best! There are far too many decent clubs with decent potential for any club in England to just always be dominant like a Rangers/Celtic or Nacional/Peñarol situation where they’ve all won over 100 trophies each and always been the dominant clubs in Scotland and Uruguay. England’s top clubs have always and will always be fluctuating and it would only take a decent few decades for any club to catch anyone else up. Because that’s all United (and Liverpool) ever really had to put them where they are in their own standing; a few good decades. Away from that, they’ve just been clubs like any other.

There have been other eras where clubs were dominant, only for their time at the top to come to an end and these clubs fall away from the top. Villa, Sunderland, Everton… Arsenal had a few goes, Liverpool had their turn, United had theirs… City and Chelsea are in their great eras now… in future decades Newcastle, Leeds, Spurs, and West Ham could be the clubs who takeover at the top if they get the right investment and use it well with the right boardrooms and right managers/players, because they certainly all have the potential to… that would be reasonable to think would happen because that’s how English football has always worked.

This notion that not winning or challenging for the title isn’t good enough for United is completely out of touch with the reality of English football.
 
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