United Thread - 2023/24

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gordondaviesmoustache said:
That photo could be explained a number of ways but the tape, assuming it is verifiably him, is totally different. It is toxic and imo no amount of benefit he could bring on the pitch is worth what united are likely to lose in reputation and the associated publicity playing him would attract.

In the vast majority of other cases of allegations of sexual assault involving footballers that are widely public, such the Mendy case, there is no publicly available evidence, save for the eye witness accounts of the accusers. This makes any public statements questioning the circumstances around the events to be hugely risky and genuinely unfair to the accused, especially after a finding of not guilty. That tape, what is in it, and the fact it was so widely disseminated, unquestionably distinguishes Greenwood from those other cases - on the basis, as I’ve said, his identity isn’t in dispute. I’d be amazed at any competent legal professional suggesting otherwise.

That isn’t to question his guilt at the crimes he was accused of, because that manifestly hasn’t been established, but that recording provides a shield for groups who campaign against domestic violence and abuse to speak with far more stridency on this particular subject around Greenwood without any real fear of legal consequences, assuming they choose their words carefully. In fact, they would arguably welcome a claim for defamation from Greenwood, in relation to those carefully chosen words. How would he frame an argument around loss of reputation and/or lack of truth, if that was him in the tape? I’m not sure where you’d start with that.

From a tactical point of view, in terms of promoting their cause, this would be the motherlode for those campaign groups and would surely be recognised as such by them and exploited accordingly. The questions that tape raises are not ones that are likely to be comfortable to answer or ones that anyone would be well advised to put themselves in a position to. It could be cross examination dynamite.

For a club whose nose for PR is so widely held up, the decision to play him (assuming that is their intention) seems incredibly foolish imo, so much so that I’ll believe it when I see it. I think they would most likely be setting themselves up for a PR disaster that they cannot manage their way out of - and the current narrative may simply be the club sounding things out to establish how the land lies, the answer to which will be ‘not favourably’. They are best settling his contract and wishing him all the best. Simply put, and imo, that tape is worth more than whatever sum of wages and compensation are left on his contract.
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Great summary.
 
cheekybids said:
Ten Hag came out of the Ronaldo situation well, he wouldn’t be forced to play anyone he didn’t want so as far as I’m concerned this is 100% on him.

That’s how I’ll be calling it when they suddenly want to blame the Glazers.
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Hasn't he got previous. Sure there was a player with alleged rape charges he continued to play whilst at Ajax. Then there's the defending of Overmars who was a fucking predator.

Seems a good fit for the Rags, no moral compass.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Be honest, how many of us are going to watch tonight's game in the hope they fuck up?

I will be watching until or if the rags go two ahead maybe then it gets shut off. I will be watching, hoping and praying they get beaten or even annihilated by Wolves.... I just love watching them lot squirm.
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Unfortunately mate I cant see anything but a resounding win for the twats, ill be keeping an eye on it as the other half is a black country girl who supports Wolves.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Be honest, how many of us are going to watch tonight's game in the hope they fuck up?

I will be watching until or if the rags go two ahead maybe then it gets shut off. I will be watching, hoping and praying they get beaten or even annihilated by Wolves.... I just love watching them lot squirm.
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If their new sounds like striker scores tonight they will be title contenders again :)
 
Blue Mist said:
@M18CTID Evans and his mates treated that girl in a despicable way. It was not a criminal offence and I fully accept the courts verdict re criminality. I do not believe that what he did was acceptable in a decent society.
It is the same with Greenwood. He has not been before the courts and has no criminal conviction. That does not make what he did acceptable. It is about time men started treating women properly.
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From memory Evans's conviction was quashed on the grounds that she was a well known woman who had history of copping off with several lads at the same time according to the bouncers in the pub - it was quite a common thing with her, plus her texts to her mates (after the event but before the case) boasting how she was going to make a load of money and promised to take them all on holiday with the compensation she'd get. Not forgetting she claimed to be drunk and couldn't stand up yet CCTV footage in the reception area showed she clearly was not and that she was able to run after a taxi having remembered she'd left her bag in it....

Apart from the above and several other factors it was a pretty watertight case presented against Evans....
 
Whose referee if it's Atwell there is something going on with who appoints them!

Wolves though is one of the easiest teams they could of picked for them at home! They should be winning this by 3/4 goals
 
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