United Thread - 2023/24

[burning blue soul]

Fair play. It’d be dull with nothing to debate, although some topics get done to death. :-)

No they don't!!!! ;)

 

[cheekybids]

Every club’s fans think the officiating is against them. We won the treble and yet still had thousands of pages of bile about refereeing.

But we’ve never been given a penalty like that at old Trafford. As has been mentioned on another thread we’ve had 3 pens in 50 years against the Rags.

1 in league cup semi at OT (2010)
1 in League at OT (91)
1 in league at Etihad (06)

They had 2 last season alone so why is there such a disparity? We are talking decisions which are easily not given & yet they get them. We have introduced “subjective” when we discuss them but it’s bias.

Bias : inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group.

Subjective : based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

 

[BigJoe#1]

See they're offering Ten Bob a pay rise and two year extension...... must mean they're thinking of sacking him arf,arf,arf...

 

[JASR]

But we’ve never been given a penalty like that at old Trafford. As has been mentioned on another thread we’ve had 3 pens in 50 years against the Rags.

1 in league cup semi at OT (2010)
1 in League at OT (91)
1 in league at Etihad (06)

They had 2 last season alone so why is there such a disparity? We are talking decisions which are easily not given & yet they get them. We have introduced “subjective” when we discuss them but it’s bias.

Bias : inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group.

Subjective : based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

Given the amount of times the Silva’s, Sane, KDB, Sterling, mahrez, aguero and even Yaya slalomed into the box, it is quite a feat that the most offensive attacking team of the last decade , with by far the highest number of goals scored , doesn’t have a considerable amount more penalties (or even opposition red cards) given in our favour.

Iirc we generally have the higher number of penalties across a season than most other teams - which I’d expect given how the team plays/how most of the opposition plays. What, iirc, doesn’t follow (you would have thought logically) is the number of penalties against red shirts- united being the big one, but I remember feeling astonishment that we got one against Liverpool (mahrez miss), and similar with Arsenal.
The lack of penalties given against the red shirts, given how we play , is down to far more than unlucky chance/‘better opposition’, it has been a noticeable feature for over a decade of us being the best attacking team that there is biased refereeing (unless we’re 3/4 nil up - as mentioned elsewhere the same thing happens with red shirt opposition against any club regarding carded players, the match stats are ‘even’, but the red shirts ones generally mount up when the game is already won for them)

 

[waspish]

Regarding the red card,which the rat exaggerated and threw himself to the ground for......why did he receive such when he wasn't the last man? is it the interpretation that it was a clear goal scoring opportunity?

Attwell refs it as a rag because he is a rag kunt!

 

[Bluesince1979]

If

Even if they could quite easily scrape 6 points of us with a little bit of "help" at the (in)appropriate moments? That still doesn't bother you? What if we lose the title afterwards by 5 points? Still not bothered?

ifs buts and maybes. They are miles behind us

 

[cheekybids]

Given the amount of times the Silva’s, Sane, KDB, Sterling, mahrez, aguero and even Yaya slalomed into the box, it is quite a feat that the most offensive attacking team of the last decade , with by far the highest number of goals scored , doesn’t have a considerable amount more penalties (or even opposition red cards) given in our favour.

Iirc we generally have the higher number of penalties across a season than most other teams - which I’d expect given how the team plays/how most of the opposition plays. What, iirc, doesn’t follow (you would have thought logically) is the number of penalties against red shirts- united being the big one, but I remember feeling astonishment that we got one against Liverpool (mahrez miss), and similar with Arsenal.
The lack of penalties given against the red shirts, given how we play , is down to far more than unlucky chance/‘better opposition’, it has been a noticeable feature for over a decade of us being the best attacking team that there is biased refereeing (unless we’re 3/4 nil up - as mentioned elsewhere the same thing happens with red shirt opposition against any club regarding carded players, the match stats are ‘even’, but the red shirts ones generally mount up when the game is already won for them)

That’s exactly my point & the point made by most fans of other clubs who see it continually.

I’ve seen Adam Crafton tweeting it’s soft but blah blah…..

They get soft ones & don’t get soft ones against yet there’s nothing to see.

We’ve seen in other areas of society, racism, sexism, homophobia. For years people knew something wasn’t right, statistics showed it but stop moaning, you’ve got a chip on your shoulder, delusional.

What do they say, it’s the big 6. The cheeky cunts, drag us into it that we are benefiting from their soft pens v forest.

 

[Paladin]

You’ve highlighted the laws and asked which bit applied. None do.

That type of goal gets scored countless times each week.

It isn’t offside, however much you think it might be.

That's not good enough I'm afraid. I read the LOTG, interpret this as offside under the laws, and I need something to explain to me why it wasn't offside. Maybe Gallagher or Dean will shed light on the matter at some point.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

He’s hailed as some revolutionary for buying Onana to try and play out from the back by signing a keeper who likes the ball at his feet. City have been doing this since 2016, Liverpool have been doing it for some time as well. Nothing has changed and they haven’t taken a step forward this summer, they will get killed when they have to play every few days when the champions league group stages happen.

Tbf after years of De Gea simply hoofing it anywhere up the pitch, any goalkeeper who tries to play it out from the back is bloody revolutionary for these footballing retards.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That's not good enough I'm afraid. I read the LOTG, interpret this as offside under the laws, and I need something to explain to me why it wasn't offside. Maybe Gallagher or Dean will shed light on the matter at some point.

That’s fair enough. It doesn’t matter as you aren’t a referee. You’re not likely to get any explanation any time soon as law 11 states how a player is offside.

No part of it applies to Casemiro’s position yesterday.