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kippaxwarrior said:
Don't get me started on Riley. The rags vs arsenal game in 2004 was one of the most baised and corrupt games I've ever seen by a ref. Some absolute shocking decisions went the rags way that day. Riley should of never reffed again after that match never mind being promoted to the head of referees.

He once gave the rags 7 penalties in consecutive games at the swamp when he reffed there. Was definitely in the piss cans back pocket

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I think I've mentioned it before but I find it impossible to watch that and not be angered by it. My only conclusion is that match was scripted before a ball was kicked.
 
Roachy said:
I think I've mentioned it before but I find it impossible to watch that and not be angered by it. My only conclusion is that match was scripted before a ball was kicked.
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At least 3 rags should of been sent off that day.

Neville(ratboy) at least 3 yellow card offences. Got one.

Van Nistelrooy. Clear stamp on Ashley Cole. No card

Ferdinand. Wiped out Ljungberg while he was clean though on goal. No foul and no card.

100% corrupt
 
kippaxwarrior said:
Don't get me started on Riley. The rags vs arsenal game in 2004 was one of the most baised and corrupt games I've ever seen by a ref. Some absolute shocking decisions went the rags way that day. Riley should of never reffed again after that match never mind being promoted to the head of referees.

He once gave the rags 7 penalties in consecutive games at the swamp when he reffed there. Was definitely in the piss cans back pocket

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God knows, I've grown to detest Arsenal in the last few seasons. Wretched club, manager, players and fans. But they were royally shafted in that game. Absolutely horrendous refereeing. I'd love Howard Webb to watch that game back, and apply today's rules to it.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
At least 3 rags should of been sent off that day.

Neville(ratboy) at least 3 yellow card offences. Got one.

Van Nistelrooy. Clear stamp on Ashley Cole. No card

Ferdinand. Wiped out Ljungberg while he was clean though on goal. No foul and no card.

100% corrupt
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Corrupt and orchestrated, absolutely no doubt.
 
jimharri said:
God knows, I've grown to detest Arsenal in the last few seasons. Wretched club, manager, players and fans. But they were royally shafted in that game. Absolutely horrendous refereeing. I'd love Howard Webb to watch that game back, and apply today's rules to it.
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Old mother didn't apply the rules at the time, if a current whistling wanker watched it now it'd still be the same with few legitimate decisions given.
 
blue moony said:
Thats a bit crass tbh
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Agreed, I thought a few times before posting it, I'm not totally comfortable with having done. However, Cardiff arranged that flight on the cheap and it feels like united want to do everything that way now, so the comparison stands even if it's a horrible one. I hope that all goes well for them in terms of the journey.
 
jimharri said:
God knows, I've grown to detest Arsenal in the last few seasons. Wretched club, manager, players and fans. But they were royally shafted in that game. Absolutely horrendous refereeing. I'd love Howard Webb to watch that game back, and apply today's rules to it.
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The rules from back then just need to be applied properly. They would have ended with 8 players.
 
mattcity5 said:
Agree.

I've seen loads of people saying it was never a penalty, but I don't think I've seen any saying why. Just 'never a pen', 'games gone', and 'var shouldn't overturn that'.

First replay I'd seen you can see De Ligt misses the ball and makes contact with Ings' shin. Why shouldn't it be a penalty?
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I'm in the never a pen camp and for me the issue is that none of the players in the area of where the ball lands makes a good attempt to win it / control it. So you can't really say anyone player has it and another player is making the challenge. Ings comes in with more momentum than anyone else and if anything he is committing a fowl on de ligt as much as the other way around. Its just a collision of players none of whom win the ball. If the ref had given a fowl to the rags no one would be talking about it.

If that's given against us we'd all go mad.
 
Gareth Barry Conlon said:
I'm in the never a pen camp and for me the issue is that none of the players in the area of where the ball lands makes a good attempt to win it / control it. So you can't really say anyone player has it and another player is making the challenge. Ings comes in with more momentum than anyone else and if anything he is committing a fowl on de ligt as much as the other way around. Its just a collision of players none of whom win the ball. If the ref had given a fowl to the rags no one would be talking about it.

If that's given against us we'd all go mad.
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that has been given against us, against palace last year, foden went to clear the ball, missed and caught the player and a pen was given, there was no media outrage, no criticism of var, just criticism of foden for a foolish challenge, whether you think its a pen or not, de ligt has caught the man and not the ball as hes gone to clear it and im not sure what the outrage is as to why that is not a pen, by the same token we should have got a pen against arsenal when akanji was rugby tackled nowhere near the ball, where was the same outrage for that not being given, thats right there was none, its selective outrage because of the team and carefully placed to deflect from the fact that even if it hadnt been given the rags would have eeked out ANOTHER draw against a poor side, but the media will always change the narrative.
 
Gareth Barry Conlon said:
I'm in the never a pen camp and for me the issue is that none of the players in the area of where the ball lands makes a good attempt to win it / control it. So you can't really say anyone player has it and another player is making the challenge. Ings comes in with more momentum than anyone else and if anything he is committing a fowl on de ligt as much as the other way around. Its just a collision of players none of whom win the ball. If the ref had given a fowl to the rags no one would be talking about it.

If that's given against us we'd all go mad.
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You've not convinced me, but good to hear some kind of explanation.

If one of ours gave that away I'd be calling them stupid.
 
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