United Thread | 2024/25

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bigA said:
Yet they are still allowed to buy top players at top prices and pay top wages (top players you can read into that what you will btw) and all the time the debt mounts up.

The rag fans will always bleat "it's a serviceable debt, yada, yada ,yada" but it is increasing week on week, month on month, year on year. The majority of the fans wanted Sheik Jassim to take over the club but he wanted FULL ownership. The Glazers were never going to let their golden goose go so instead talked Catweazle Jim to buy into the club and take him for a ride as well as the rags fans as well. And like a mug, Catweazle has put his money in with one hand and the Glazers are taking from him from the other and also fleecing his pockets as well. And yet there is no investigation on their finances from the PL or UEFA, no talk of fraud or corruption or false accounting at Old Trafford.

The PL, UEFA and the main stream media are too shit scared to even contemplate taking any action against United, Liverpool and Arsenal because they are so far up those clubs collective arses that no enema could ever flush those turds out. Well we've had us standing up to them and now Newcastle, Villa and Forest as well. Cracks are beginning to appear within the PL cartel, it just needs a few more clubs to grow some bollocks, not be intimidated, blackmailed or bought off and the system will crash down around the cartels collective heads and they will be fucked.
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You mention 'serviceable debt'.
This was spouted when it was 600 million.
The debt is now certainly north of 800 million.
Soon someone is going to realise the debt, especially if it continues to rise isn't serviceable.
If they miss out on a top 4 place this year..........
 
citizen_maine said:
It might make interesting reading, but the point remains, they haven't done anything wrong as long as they are paying the instalment payments
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True

I looked at the MEN story and it says over a 6 year period United have eight players over £50million
That is staggering amount to have £413million owed before a penny is made or anything coming off the debt
 
Blue Mist said:
You mention 'serviceable debt'.
This was spouted when it was 600 million.
The debt is now certainly north of 800 million.
Soon someone is going to realise the debt, especially if it continues to rise isn't serviceable.
If they miss out on a top 4 place this year..........
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It was not serviceable last season went they had to fudge £75million in allowances with Covid19 and sales of shares to Jim to make PSR ? Was all this is the report in the annual revenue media release
 
Blue Mist said:
You mention 'serviceable debt'.
This was spouted when it was 600 million.
The debt is now certainly north of 800 million.
Soon someone is going to realise the debt, especially if it continues to rise isn't serviceable.
If they miss out on a top 4 place this year..........
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What ever happens they will be OK.
The league will make sure of it.
The league needs a successful Manchester yyyyoooouuuunited.
They're a British institution dont you know.
 
Blue Mist said:
It is. The Netherlands no mark they recently bought.
His buy out fee was circa 38 million. That had to be paid upfront so the rags paid extra to get him on tick.

As I understand it a guy turns up every Friday night to get the money, even writes it in his little book whilst standing in the hallway.
He got in trouble when the rags complained. Apparently he giggled throughout the collection muttering 'you soft bastards'
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That explains why TEN bob was back in Manchester last week
 
With that Everest of debt they're sinking under, they could always sell some of their expertly scouted and expensively assembled players! Think not even the Saudis are falling for that...
 
ancoats said:
Not if the government takes control of the Premier League clubs spending
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What ever happens they won't be allowed to go under.
Like barca in Spain.
The league needs the cartel in each country.
The chairman of the fa.
I forget his name said the premier league needs a successful Manchester yyyyyooounited.
When Roy Hodgson was engerland manager he actually said "if you young English and play for yooouuunited you have a great future for england".
Why do you.
Cleverly.
Welbeck.
Phil neville.
Alan smith captain at Leeds never played for England.
Went to the rags.
In the England team.
Leaves to go to Newcastle.
No England games
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Just remind us of the " top players " they have signed ?

It is a fact that because they are totally clueless regarding football awareness that they pay over the odds for 2nd rate players and over-hyped fuck ups that decent teams wouldn't touch .

I wouldn't be surprised to find that they are punching above their weight in playing Bodo Glimt , the european susperstars of fuck knows where.
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If you read the bit in brackets about "top players" it was meant make of what you want out of their top players they've signed. We know that the top players they have signed are ridiculously overpriced and overrated but that's their look out. The main thing is they are still allowed to pay huge fees despite of the ever mounting debt they're in.
 
Blue Mist said:
You mention 'serviceable debt'.
This was spouted when it was 600 million.
The debt is now certainly north of 800 million.
Soon someone is going to realise the debt, especially if it continues to rise isn't serviceable.
If they miss out on a top 4 place this year..........
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And rising week in week out.
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
What ever happens they won't be allowed to go under.
Like barca in Spain.
The league needs the cartel in each country.
The chairman of the fa.
I forget his name said the premier league needs a successful Manchester yyyyyooounited.
When Roy Hodgson was engerland manager he actually said "if you young English and play for yooouuunited you have a great future for england".
Why do you.
Cleverly.
Welbeck.
Phil neville.
Alan smith captain at Leeds never played for England.
Went to the rags.
In the England team.
Leaves to go to Newcastle.
No England games
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But a club can sometimes be one that demised, and another steps into its place commercially that its days are numbered.

United have been slaughtered the last few years. Comical appointments, a stadium that’s falling down, results that are just there to be laughed at. The list goes on.

United aren’t anything like what or who they are. There are two or three other clubs now who have as much, if not more, worldwide appeal. Us being one of them.

Nobody has any benefit of then staying on top than them - and they’re continuing to fail. They’be long been second fiddle in Manchester*

*if Trafford is to be included.
 
Judging by this so far, going to take some getting used to making these players play the way he wants. Having 3 defenders (essentially 5 with the wing backs) should make them more solid and make the transition easier but it’s done the opposite.

Martinez legging it out of position into midfield because Ugarte/Fernandes aren’t doing their jobs. Garnacho and Antony not tracking runners. Fernandes not defensively sound enough to track runners or have the awareness. Mount meandering around.

They’ll attack better than they did under Ten Hag but defensively they’ll be even more open than they were…somehow.

Reminds me of the first season under Pep. We were mint going forward when he first came - different patterns etc. - but the defence was rocky and we were open. He always harped on about ‘second balls’ and I think it takes a few games for foreign managers to recognise that importance.

Hopefully they continue to be shit.
 
skillman said:
Reminds me of the first season under Pep. We were mint going forward when he first came - different patterns etc. - but the defence was rocky and we were open. He always harped on about ‘second balls’ and I think it takes a few games for foreign managers to recognise that importance.

Hopefully they continue to be shit.
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I think you're flattering them a bit there??
 
Really_here said:
I think you're flattering them a bit there??
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Yeah, tenuous. It’s early days but they’re getting space in certain areas purely down to the change in set up. Mainly in the wings. I remember being amazed that Silva/KDB could have so much space but it took a while for it to fully click.
 
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