United Thread | 2024/25

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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Their academy poster boy who made his debut a decade ago first being made to train on his own then shipped out to Aston Villa with the rags partly paying his ridiculous wages.

They are in the shit money wise on player transfers having to sell to buy which won’t improve their squad in the long term. Which means they will have to go to their fabled youth academy. Trouble is when was the last time their academy produced a player that has gone on to have any type of notable career? You would have to go back to 1992 with family man Ryan, The Chuckle Brothers and the ginger toe sucker. They’ve brought Jason Wilcox to try and recreate City’s academy set up, however City have completely cut United off at the knees as no young player now aspires to play for the rags. By the time they get any form of cohesive strategy going in the next ten years, the doom spiral they are in could see them in the Championship.
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Fucking zero chance that Villa are picking up the very publicised 75% of his salary - with a potential future fee of £40m!!!?!

Not a hope in hell..........
 
ScottSinclair said:
Maybe, I strongly suspect this is more out of necessity than design. The transfer and wage policy they have ran over the last few years have stopped itself. Outside of Yoro who was an opportunistic punt when Madrid were waiting for him to wind down his contract their youth targets are distinctly second rate. Garnacho and Mainoo has been strongly linked away, one of them refusing to sign a new contract. Even the mentioned Yoro is strongly rumoured to still want Madrid, and will probably either move on or fail as a signing which is hardly a ideal situation for United anyway

The rest of the business they have done isn't that different to what they have been doing for years. They have just saved everyone some time and expectations by instead of signing the likes of Casemiro and Varane that are already old and are ready to wind-down their careers on a lower level they sign players like De Ligt, Mazraoi and Ugarte that are younger but already shown that they aren't good enough for the highest level. Primarily because they are cheaper and have resale value. As I said they act as a mid-table club in every aspect other than aspirations
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But according to the media Ugarte was the missing piece after signing the so-called Dutch Maldini & snatching a wonder kid from Real Madrids clutches

Hahahaha
 
foggy1974 said:
But according to the media Ugarte was the missing piece after signing the so-called Dutch Maldini & snatching a wonder kid from Real Madrids clutches

Hahahaha
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Is that the Ugarte who somehow has filled McTommy's role of fouling at will knowing he won't get a yellow until the last 10 minutes of games?
Yeah?
Thought so
 
TinFoilHat said:
The rags will not be allowed to go down. They are 'integral to the brand'.

More COVID 19 penalties for fuck all coming up if they find themselves just above the water.

7 in last 6 games wasn't it?
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There’s nothing they can do now about the squad. Glorious.
Being in a relegation scrap takes a special type of mentality amongst the players.
They don’t appear to have players capable of handling that kind of pressure.
Then add on the pressure of the 70,000 fucking idiots who choose to boo everyone and everything at the slightest sign of it not being fair then more pressure is brought upon the players.
The toxicity then ramps up a little more when their ‘yesterday’s men’ expert pundits weigh in.
Sadly they have scuffed enough this season coupled with at least 3 or 4 really shite teams performing worse than them then PGMOL may not have to intervene to protect ‘the brand.’
I am desperate for them to win fuck all this season.
As has been said many times on here already they haven’t got the personnel that any other club are interested in to ship out to raise funds which would enable a massive rebuild in the summer.
I truly believe that they could get really dragged into a relegation fight next season if they end up empty handed this.
The Thursday night cup worries me - they’ve got more jam than Robertsons & Hartleys combined when needed we’ve seen it time and time again.
If they don’t manage to fluke that then it’s down to the EPL to scrap any kind of financial governance to bail them out.
There’s been a nasty case of food poisoning in the trafford area of late - that’s surely enough for them to be allowed to write off £250 million.
Long may their decline continue.
WTFAMu.
SCUM.
CTID
As you were Blues.
 
jrb said:
The bottom line was that, given United's current financial status and the requirement to stay on the right side of Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR), they could not make a statement signing without a statement sale.
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They didn't make any actual sales did they? They just saved a proportion of the enormous wages they're comitted to pay as far as I can see.
 
ScottSinclair said:
If Amorim fails as well and the money has run out I genuinly think they need to go full circle and go for a David Moyes type of manager next. And I am not trying to be funny.

They will finish around 15th this season, expected points from the last 2 seasons has had them firmly around 10th to 14th, their squad is filled with players that either came from the bench at better clubs abroad or players they have broken years ago, or are youth that are either not good enough or players that they need to sell to comply with PSR if they finish outside of Europe. They are by all intents and purposes a mid-table side already and there is no quick-fix. Their fans are too ignorant to see it but their only player that has delivered a season good enough to drag them anywhere in the last 3 years has just sulked his way to a better club.


If they can accept that they are where they are because they are fucking shite, and if they can get in a manager that can make them a cohesive unit on a budget and stabilise them to statistically be around 6th instead of a stastical anomaly, that is actual something they could build on.
But no let's get in a hipster City wanted that needs to buy a new squad and deliver the elusive title to be deemed a success. He can't win unless he happens to be an all-time great. They ask every manager they hire to do a Ranieri

They have been stuck in the mindset for 10 years that they are a manager or player away from being back to where they think they belong. Their fans see them fluke their way to Europe every other year and think they are underachieving, and that the tools are there for a title-push. But the truth is that the freefall has only just caught up with them. They can admit they are not the same club they were under Ferguson, but their problem is they are not the same club they were under Mourinho. They are Everton before Moyes came in the first time.

The cultural reset they need is to accept this, accept the fact that there is a core of 8 mid-table teams they need to overcome off the pitch before they start chasing the shadows of us and Liverpool. But the morons in their fanbase will never accept this, so they will continue parachuting in any flavor of the month or has-been they can get their hands on with the expectation that this is the one that will be even more of a statistical anomaly than the last one and stabilise them in the top 3.

Until they understand this it will be groundhog day at the swamp
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This is the united they have been for 80% of their history

They have had two all time great managers in 150 years , the rest of the time they have lived off the memory of these two successful periods

They are back to their natural level
 
horlock_was_super said:
There’s nothing they can do now about the squad. Glorious.
Being in a relegation scrap takes a special type of mentality amongst the players.
They don’t appear to have players capable of handling that kind of pressure.
Then add on the pressure of the 70,000 fucking idiots who choose to boo everyone and everything at the slightest sign of it not being fair then more pressure is brought upon the players.
The toxicity then ramps up a little more when their ‘yesterday’s men’ expert pundits weigh in.
Sadly they have scuffed enough this season coupled with at least 3 or 4 really shite teams performing worse than them then PGMOL may not have to intervene to protect ‘the brand.’
I am desperate for them to win fuck all this season.
As has been said many times on here already they haven’t got the personnel that any other club are interested in to ship out to raise funds which would enable a massive rebuild in the summer.
I truly believe that they could get really dragged into a relegation fight next season if they end up empty handed this.
The Thursday night cup worries me - they’ve got more jam than Robertsons & Hartleys combined when needed we’ve seen it time and time again.
If they don’t manage to fluke that then it’s down to the EPL to scrap any kind of financial governance to bail them out.
There’s been a nasty case of food poisoning in the trafford area of late - that’s surely enough for them to be allowed to write off £250 million.
Long may their decline continue.
WTFAMu.
SCUM.
CTID
As you were Blues.
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I actually believe Neville might undo his trousers and reveal his buttoned mushroom to Spitty's open mouth if the rags stay up and city finish outside of the top 4
 
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