Update from Vicky Kloss on The Sunday Supplement Attack

[Kirkstall Blue]

Does anyone think there is a possiblity the media's hate capaign against us is is due to the fact that Sky and most newspapers are owned by Jews and we are owned by Arabs, who are seen by Jews as their very long term enemies.
Not sure if the term racist can be applied to this type sectarian hatred but the orchestrated venom being unleashed on us has got to be due to something much more than the media just not wanting the top four cartel to be broken.
The media do not seem to have problem with Spuds and their large Jewish following breaking into the top four, in fact they go overboard to support them.
Apologies if this idea offends any Jewish Bluemooners it is not intended to, I have no problem with anyone of any creed, sect or religion. It's just thought.

Without being political I think you have a point, except the programme in question, where they wanted Fulham to win for the good of football and the owner of Fulham is Egyptian a "muslim" so I thought it was more of a South V North thing and with the decline of Liverpool, they rather have a London team in the champions league spots, Spuds and the media favourite "Arry"

 

[Chris in London]

Richard Desmond ,Daily Express,Daily Star Owner is a High Profile Jew with some very firm views against Islamic factions Especially with regards to Immigration into this country.Extreme Right Wing.

I said mainstream.

A propos of nothing other than the mere mention of Richard Desmond, the editor of one of Desmond's papers (the Express I think) used to be Rosie Boycott until she was sacked by him. On her last day, IIRC she penned an editorial which was something to do with tomato production, or something equally anodyne. Desmond had specifically requested that anything written by Boycott should be checked for any sort of 'parting gift' that might have been left. Nothing was found and the editorial was published as written.

The problem was, if you took the first letter of every sentence in the editorial and put them all together, it spelled out 'FUCK YOU DESMOND'.

Which was a nice way to leave his employment, I consider.

 

[blue dallas]

Does anyone think there is a possiblity the media's hate capaign against us is is due to the fact that Sky and most newspapers are owned by Jews and we are owned by Arabs, who are seen by Jews as their very long term enemies.
Not sure if the term racist can be applied to this type sectarian hatred but the orchestrated venom being unleashed on us has got to be due to something much more than the media just not wanting the top four cartel to be broken.
The media do not seem to have problem with Spuds and their large Jewish following breaking into the top four, in fact they go overboard to support them.
Apologies if this idea offends any Jewish Bluemooners it is not intended to, I have no problem with anyone of any creed, sect or religion. It's just thought.

Firstly Rupert Murdoch isn't Jewish so that knocks that on the head straight away. I also can't think of any other mainstream newspapers off the top of my head that are "Jewish owned". That doesn't mean there isn't a xenophobic agenda in the English press though.

Sky's agenda might have a under-current but this would probably be more to do with the battle over TV football rights in Italy, where Sky Italia are battling it out with MediaSet, in which I think Abu Dhabi has a stake.

There's also their commercial interests as well - who is worth most money to them - and I think they're actually coming round to us as opposed to Liverpool.

he's half jewish his mother was a jew maiden name Greene.

 

[EddieR]

Firstly Rupert Murdoch isn't Jewish so that knocks that on the head straight away. I also can't think of any other mainstream newspapers off the top of my head that are "Jewish owned". That doesn't mean there isn't a xenophobic agenda in the English press though.

Sky's agenda might have a under-current but this would probably be more to do with the battle over TV football rights in Italy, where Sky Italia are battling it out with MediaSet, in which I think Abu Dhabi has a stake.

There's also their commercial interests as well - who is worth most money to them - and I think they're actually coming round to us as opposed to Liverpool.

he's half jewish his mother was a jew maiden name Greene.

Kinda makes me all nostalgic for the Protestant/Catholic sectarianism that we used to enjoy.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Firstly Rupert Murdoch isn't Jewish so that knocks that on the head straight away. I also can't think of any other mainstream newspapers off the top of my head that are "Jewish owned". That doesn't mean there isn't a xenophobic agenda in the English press though.

Sky's agenda might have a under-current but this would probably be more to do with the battle over TV football rights in Italy, where Sky Italia are battling it out with MediaSet, in which I think Abu Dhabi has a stake.

There's also their commercial interests as well - who is worth most money to them - and I think they're actually coming round to us as opposed to Liverpool.

he's half jewish his mother was a jew maiden name Greene.

This myth is put about by far-right/anti-semitic websites and is completely without foundation. She's as Jewish as Thaksin Shinawatra. No doubt I'll get accused of playing the antisemitic card again but this thread has gone in a ridiculous direction with people spouting the sort of Jewish conspiracy stuff that Goebbels would have been proud of.

 

[stony]

Thought you'd be straight in there, PB! Nice side-step, I see.

Bentheblue

The individuals concerned do not have to be Jewish to have a pro-Zionist agenda. It suits the likes of Murdoch to keep the highly oppressive and unjust world order as it is. Israel, the US and the grab for oil is a long tale done to death in Off Topic. PB and I politely disagree on most of these issues but there it is. Neither am I a fan of retrospection but I did point all this out in early September 2008 as it has been my life's experience that Islamophobia has been a constant in the West for around 15 centuries, and so it should all come as no surprise to you. I could say a few things about 'Arab' regimes but for many reasons, not least because of the beneficial support of ADUG, I don't want to. I then get slaughtered by very arrogant pro-atheists who don't seem to either (1) understand what I am saying or what I do/do not believe and (2) show a complete lack of respect for the club's owners who, thankfully, are unliklely to read their hate-filled drivel anyway.

The trouble is that, after a while debating with the learned PB, you can start to sound like him. You've been warned!

What have atheists done now?

We don't beleive in God so we must hate. Not sure about that logic myself. I've always found that the most hate filled people are amongst the most religious.

 

[LongsightM13]

I think both jewish and muslim city fans could find some common ground in agreeing that Rob Beasley is a gobshite. From small acorns, etc

 

[shaun at my desk]

I know it's not strictly like for like,bit when did the Chelsea hatred die down? They were already top four and had won Cups,we've won bugger all since way before most current fans were born,is this why?
People get worried because suddenly the village idiot might one day be running said village,is this why? Surely the attacks will stop when we actually win something?

 

[Anonymous]

I think both jewish and muslim city fans could find some common ground in agreeing that Rob Beasley is a gobshite. From small acorns, etc

To be fair, the argument would then change to which of them thinks he's a bigger gobshite and then boom, back to square one, with the fighting and the hating and the suicide bombers and the settlements and the glaven.

 

[City Raider]

I'd also emailed the guy not expecting a response, not sure it tallys with Vicky's reply but here it is anyway....

I've deliberately taken a few days to cool off after your offensive rant at Man City on Sunday morning. I still feel a little angry but want to try and take the emotion out of my email - something you patently, as a supposedly unbiased reporter, failed to do. Please, if you get chance, look back and look at the pure vitriol in your body language and actual language, I think you would be embarrassed. There is nothing wrong with passion, but you were out of order.

The most annoying thing though was your arguments were based on myth and not fact but don't let the truth get in the way of a good story eh? Mancini was not in the stand the day Hughes was sacked, you know that, so why spout the nonsense? He was in Italy and was actually interviewed on the day by Sky Italia.

It's right up there with Hughes didn't know Robinho was signing and Robinho thought he was signing for Man Utd, as an example of the abject journalism we've had to suffer.

Jealousy rears its head in many ways, we didn't ask for the money and it has changed everything. I guess people just have to sit and watch what's happening and feeled wronged and powerless to do anything about it, so stuff gets invented or the slightest error we make is turned into a national scandal - eg the De Jong tackle. You'd have thought he murdered the lad. Did Newcastle send a strongly worded statement to the FA for Barton's punch or Williamson's headbutt? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

And on that note, the irony of all ironies on Sunday morning was you procrastinating about my club being morally bankrupt in the same week your club so disgracefully sacked Ray Wilkins. Do you also remember the way Ranieiri was dealt with, and others?

Chelsea have subsequently won things and that appears to make this behaviour ok. You're allowed to be morally bankrupt as long as you're successfully morally bankrupt.

We are only following the model you copied from Man United. Spend wrecklessly at the beginning, then promote from within as time passes. We just haven't had enough time to be judged on it yet.

A lot of blues are boycotting your paper, I don't want to follow that route and would just sk you to be a little more reasoned in your arguments.

Reply...

Like me...you're way behind the times!

I apologised to Mancini, City and the fans yesterday.

Not because I was forced to or even asked to but because I wanted to - and you can check that with City!! (Vicky Kloss)

The truth is that on the day of Hughes' departure I saw a news bulletin from a respected and reputable news organisation saying Mancini was there in the stands and guess what? I believed it.

And guess what? I thought it was disgraceful and it has coloured my view of City ever since, as you clearly witnessed on the show!

Trouble is the news report was wrong and I didn't find that out until a City fan pointed it out to me on Tuesday. I checked it out and found he was right.

I couldn't believe I went so long not realising this information was NOT true but surely you don't think I'd get that worked up about something I knew to be false!! (As you say check out the body language!)

Anyway first thing Wednesday morning I sent my written apology to everyone at City.

I repeat it was my own personal choice to do so and I was not under any duress whatsoever.

Call it a point of principle if you like.

I believe if I want the clubs to act with class and dignity then so should I and I think I have done so.

I hope you do too.

And I genuinely hope people find out that I have admitted I got it wrong.

I know what it's like to go on feeling aggrieved about something unnecessarily!!!

And I don't want to still be getting e-mails like yours in a year's time!!!!!

Cheers

Rob