US & Israel attack Iran

He is just leading up to binning off NATO to recoup some dough.
Unless he’s willing to attempt it under Executive authority, such a move would require a two-third super majority from the Senate or an act of Congress.

He’s blundered enormously, and no amount of deflection will spare the American public from the inevitable economic consequences.
 
He is just leading up to binning off NATO to recoup some dough.

While I dont doubt he's gonna try to leave NATO, There wont be any recouping anything. US Military spending levels is nowt to do with NATO, Its US doctrine to be able to take on the rest of the world and fight on multiple fronts. NATO may have benefitted from that spend over the years and allowed some NATO members ( including ourselves ) to not spend as much as they should, but the US would have spent the same NATO or not.

And US spending is increasing rapidly and to be honest will probably increase more if they exit NATO as they will have a gap to make up in terms of firepower that was aligned with them that no longer is.
 



The Director of American intelligence committee responsible of updating the President was asked three questions by congress
1 was Irans nuclear capability annihilated last year .YES
2 was Iran continuing to build nuclear weapons it wasn’t
3 She couldn’t or wouldn’t answer was their an imminent threat of NW.
 
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Shell garage down the road from me selling diesel at £1.83 per litre - thats over £8.50 a gallon. I say selling they probably aren't as a garage the other side of town are still at £1.69 per litre. Buckle up folks its gonna be a long year
 
There is already a peace keeping force in Lebanon it was established by the UN in 1978 for the purpose of confirming the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the South of Lebanon, restoring international peace and security, and assisting the Lebanese Government in ensuring the return of its government in the area

The IDF take no notice and are currently creating a chunk of land for themselves displacing thousands of Lebanese civilians. ….In the news we hear nothing about the UN peace keeping force or how Israel has fired at the UN forces.

I didn't know this.
I just don't understand how this can carry on with the world standing by.
And we are bombing the shit out of iran for killing there own people while isreal with impunity commit genocide in two different countries.
The world is truly fucked when a shit stain of a nation can do as it pleases without repercussion

Agree….On the 6th March Israel bombed a UN position in Al Qouzah, South Lebanon. Nothing in the press about it and we have 24hr news, we have press out their risking their lives but their articles never make the front page

Since 1987 there have been causalities among UN peacekeepers in Lebanon from different nationalities they were killed by Israel and many more have been injured.

The world looks the other way
 
Agree….On the 6th March Israel bombed a UN position in Al Qouzah, South Lebanon. Nothing in the press about it and we have 24hr news, we have press out their risking their lives but their articles never make the front page

Since 1987 there have been causalities among UN peacekeepers in Lebanon from different nationalities they were killed by Israel and many more have been injured.

The world looks the other way
The bit I don’t understand is why, how does Israel have so much clout, is it really all about money?
They way they have and continue to behave we should just cut them loose and offer no more support
 
They can both be cunts. The American's choices have led the Iranians to threaten to kill civilians.

They both can.

The Iranian regime have long been making specific threats against various civilians, they don’t need an excuse, the current situation just allows them to be a bit more public and broad about it.

They aren’t terribly nice people.
 
The bit I don’t understand is why, how does Israel have so much clout, is it really all about money?
They way they have and continue to behave we should just cut them loose and offer no more support

they have friends in high places around the world - doubtless they have bank rolled some for services some they have compromised in some way - you can bet they keep all the receipts though.

If I was an American I'd want to know what they got in return for $3.8bn of tax dollars sent to Israel every year. Israeli's have good cheap universal healthcare - American's do not. Settlers who illegally occupy land don't work they get money direct from the Government - Americans don't have any decent support that would match that.

So why do the Americans give Israel so much cash?
 
When we were in small tribes during prehistoric times, we’d have no issues raiding the next tribe and bashing every man woman and child’s heads in.

Humans are great apes, we’re a violent animal, just less so than a lot of other animals and our great ape peers.

We often think we’re somehow enlightened beyond all other living things, and whilst we have extreme intelligence compared to other animals, we’re still significantly flawed.
I'm not flawed. Cept in the penis department.
 
Maybe but in this case the cunts are the Iranians threatening to deliberately kill civilians.

“We are watching your cowardly officials and commanders, pilots and wicked soldiers,” Shekarchi said, adding, “From now on, based on the information we have on you, the promenades, resorts and tourist and entertainment centres in the world will not be safe for you either.”


If you read the full quotes it sounds more like he's saying they'll attack enemy politicians and military personnel anywhere, although I'm sure civilians would get hurt too. This is the price we all pay when Israel kills 100 civlians assassinating Larijani and no western leaders have said anything about it. We've normalised it assassinations with civilian casualties in Iran and now act shocked when they say they'll do the same.

Just like the oil infrastructure attacks.

We (Britian) need to distance ourselves from this war as much as feasibly possible.
 
they have friends in high places around the world - doubtless they have bank rolled some for services some they have compromised in some way - you can bet they keep all the receipts though.

If I was an American I'd want to know what they got in return for $3.8bn of tax dollars sent to Israel every year. Israeli's have good cheap universal healthcare - American's do not. Settlers who illegally occupy land don't work they get money direct from the Government - Americans don't have any decent support that would match that.

So why do the Americans give Israel so much cash?
Head nail
 

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