US & Israel attack Iran



Apart from the innocent Iranian civilians killed in this unnecessary war “six American servicemen die thirty wounded” Nothing comes from these interviews, culpable Hegseth stammers and stutters his way through, he won’t resign for failing those six servicemen but he should

Not only resign but be prosecuted under the US War Crimes Act 1996...this is the law he has violated...nothing to do with ICC which they're not signed up to
 
Oooh condemnation. That’ll show em. Israelis wont give a flying fuck and will continue. Probably target more now. Actions are needed not words.

Ps not a dig at you mate.

No I know it’s not a dig at me, :)

The IDF couldn’t function if Trump didn’t send billions of dollars to fund the invasion of southern Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank.

The UK is equally to blame supplying military equipment we are still culpable, wars can’t start if we stopped selling weapons to unstable countries which Israel is currently.

The UN identifies the UK as asking “for Israel to stop its military campaign” …. it’s a joke together with the USA we still send the money and weapons. We are to blame
 
No I know it’s not a dig at me, :)

The IDF couldn’t function if Trump didn’t send billions of dollars to fund the invasion of southern Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank.

The UK is equally to blame supplying military equipment we are still culpable, wars can’t start if we stopped selling weapons to unstable countries which Israel is currently.

The UN identifies the UK as asking “for Israel to stop its military campaign” …. it’s a joke together with the USA we still send the money and weapons. We are to blame
Can we get this right as it keeps getting peddled.

We don’t send money and offensive weapons. We do however supply parts for aircraft to the US which are used by Israel, but not directly. We also stopped licences for any weapons that can be used offensively.

Also, we have sanctioned Israeli politicians, recognised Palestine as a state, stopped negotiations on economic deals, as well as sanctioning invaders of the West Bank. We have also reopened funds to UNRWA and on the current count, authorised approximately £100 million for humanitarian aid to Palestine.

Yes, we do have ties with Israel, but they are now very strained, leading to the likes of Netanyahu to criticise the current UK government.
 
If anyone leaves this counrtry to serve in the IDF they should not be allowed back in, make this plainly clear before they go, if they have family here, that family is welcome to go with them to Israel and not return also. Just like Begum going to ISIS, they are culpable now.
Hundreds of British citizens were arrested and investigated after returning from the Syrian conflict.

(As an aside Begum was never investigated properly)

But I’m unaware if that applies to people coming back from the conflict in Gaza.
 
Hundreds of British citizens were arrested and investigated after returning from the Syrian conflict.

(As an aside Begum was never investigated properly)

But I’m unaware if that applies to people coming back from the conflict in Gaza.
They are free to murder abroad and not one fuck is given by the police. There's over 2000 that have gone over to have target practice on kids heads


 
No I know it’s not a dig at me, :)

The IDF couldn’t function if Trump didn’t send billions of dollars to fund the invasion of southern Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank.

The UK is equally to blame supplying military equipment we are still culpable, wars can’t start if we stopped selling weapons to unstable countries which Israel is currently.


The UN identifies the UK as asking “for Israel to stop its military campaign” …. it’s a joke together with the USA we still send the money and weapons. We are to blame

Can we get this right as it keeps getting peddled

Which part of my post was peddled ? You jumped in without reading it ?

I clearly stated Trump is sending billions of dollar’s True
I clearly stated the UK sends military equipment True
 
Since September 2024, 8,630 items were exported under the category “bombs, grenades, torpedoes, mines, missiles and similar munitions of war and parts thereof – other”.

In addition to weapons, four shipments were made after September of 146 items under a customs code identified as “tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, motorised, whether or not fitted with weapons, and parts of such vehicles”.


Read the fucking article you dumb ****. Do I have to post it three times?

This is true only last week Belgium confiscated two extremely large shipments of Military weapons bound for Israel from the UK. It will be held by them while legal proceedings are undertaken as military equipment is not allowed through Belgium.
 
Since September 2024, 8,630 items were exported under the category “bombs, grenades, torpedoes, mines, missiles and similar munitions of war and parts thereof – other”.

In addition to weapons, four shipments were made after September of 146 items under a customs code identified as “tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, motorised, whether or not fitted with weapons, and parts of such vehicles”.


Read the fucking article you dumb ****. Do I have to post it three times?
‘You dumb ****’? Take a look at yourself, pal. There is absolutely no evidence apart from that which you want to see.

I do realise that I’m not your favourite poster, especially as I wrongly thought you were a Tory supporter because of your hatred for Starmer, not realising that you were actually way over to the left and seriously upset that Corbyn, who failed this country, was usurped by him.

But, to get that aggressive to another poster, trying to force conspiracies onto people, is not on. Especially when you wouldn’t do the same to my face.

I’ll leave you to your conspiracies and disgraceful behaviour, and remind myself not only to reply to your posts, but drive-by them … again!
 
The BBC news, Trump will allow a few ships through the straight of Hormuz for humanitarian reasons, that’s so good to hear I suspect they may be Chinese tankers.?

Hegseth has said “Iran has overwhelmingly accepted a ceasefire”
 
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For this USrael - Iran war and prior to the ceasefire, the US has spent US$25 billion for the few months alone, and the administration is requesting another US$1.5 trillion for several months more.

With those taxpayers money being used to send offensives to Iran, imagine how much American lives could have been saved for medications and surgeries.

Or The homelessness prevalent across states.

Or More proactive systems to prevent and predict public shootings.

Or the higher education for the intelligent but less well-off.

US$1.75 trillion for the community goes a long way. But of course, its not MAGA its MIGA.
 


From CNN unprecedented destruction”

“Majority of U.S. military sites in the Middle East damaged by Iran, CNN investigation reveals.

Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth desperately tried to keep the extent of the damage from the public so people wouldn’t see how badly this was botched. Now the images are coming out and they’re disturbing”

A new CNN investigation reveals that Trump and Hegseth have hid from the public how badly U.S. military sites in the Middle East have been damaged by Iran.

These new images are disturbing.

Any idea on casualties, because I can't imagine there were just a few cuts and bruises needing a plaster?
 

The US created the war out of nothing and closed Hormuz to the rest of the world - China

BRICS: Iran will let Chinese ships pass.

➡️ If the US blocks Chinese ships in the open seas, then China may remove the US Navy from Asian waters


BRICS: Iran will let Chinese ships pass.



Things just got serious let’s hope Trump let’s Chinese ships from Iran through this war has gone on long enough

Isn't the imbecile heading off to China to meet Xi in a couple of weeks, he wouldn't dare stop Chinese ships.

To be honest, I don't think he'd actually have it in him to stop Chinese ships whether he was going or not.
 

The US created the war out of nothing and closed Hormuz to the rest of the world - China

BRICS: Iran will let Chinese ships pass.

➡️ If the US blocks Chinese ships in the open seas, then China may remove the US Navy from Asian waters


BRICS: Iran will let Chinese ships pass.



Things just got serious let’s hope Trump let’s Chinese ships from Iran through this war has gone on long enough

Is Iran blocking ships from countries that have nothing to do with the war ?
 
Now he's pulling 5,000 troops out of Germany, along with threats to Spain and Italy, much to Putin's delight.

The 'real' US military commanders must be pulling their hair out behind the scenes trying to manage this constant incompetency.
And when the next guy wants to put them back into europe, putin will kick off saying they are moving their troops closer to russia and they feel threatened.
 
This is all the fault of the US and Israel however Iran have been incredibly belligerent and the leadership is a proponent of evil with its sponsorship of proxy groups and suppression of its own people, so while it pains me to say it (and I can't believe I'm saying it) I think I'd now support a tactical nuke launch at an Iranian military site, or just offshore as a warning. If Iran responds by attacking GCC infrastructure then sadly it would be time for shock and awe (and I lived in Tehran as a young child and know how beautiful it is).

Hopefully that doesn't happen and Iran backs down but I don't see it.

The impact on the world currently is too severe and Iran doesn't own the Strait of Hormuz anyway.
 
Using a tactical nuke would open Pandora's box and justify the use in all kinds of other situations. What would then stop Russia from using them in Ukraine for example? If one is ever going to be used, the circumstances need to justify the consequences of doing so. This is a fairly low level conflict in the grand scheme of things, with only the economic side being all that impactful. Do we really want a world where tactical nukes are being deployed to resolve economic issues?
 
Using a tactical nuke would open Pandora's box and justify the use in all kinds of other situations. What would then stop Russia from using them in Ukraine for example? If one is ever going to be used, the circumstances need to justify the consequences of doing so. This is a fairly low level conflict in the grand scheme of things, with only the economic side being all that impactful. Do we really want a world where tactical nukes are being deployed to resolve economic issues?
Agree but I reckon that's where we'll end up.

I suppose if Iran does attack US ships who are escorting civilians ships that would justify a NATO Art 5 call and NATO can get involved in dismantling Iran.
 
Using a tactical nuke would open Pandora's box and justify the use in all kinds of other situations. What would then stop Russia from using them in Ukraine for example? If one is ever going to be used, the circumstances need to justify the consequences of doing so. This is a fairly low level conflict in the grand scheme of things, with only the economic side being all that impactful. Do we really want a world where tactical nukes are being deployed to resolve economic issues?
Trump, Hegseth and Miller are itching to use nukes, you can tell with the rhetoric of lethality etc etc, Trump will boast no one but him would use them, within 72 hours Putin will do the same and then things will escalate rapidly in Europe. They always said WW3 would start in the Middle East and Trump is too stupid to back down now, he has no off ramp unless Iran can be talked into giving him one which they don’t seem prepared to do. The US military has been show to be not as effective as the thought they were as those trillions spent on defence are are no been pushed back by simple drone warfare, the usa will run out of missiles beofr Iran dies drones which may leave the tactical nuke as the only option.
 

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