US & Israel attack Iran

[Lankers]

So, me being me, I read your source. Here's what they say:

Despite repeated accusations from Israel and often from the United States as well, up until the Twelve-Day War – the military confrontation between Israel and Iran in June 2025 – Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, had always blocked the final decision to move to 90% enrichment and to begin developing miniaturised nuclear warheads small enough to be deliverable. This was despite pressure from various quarters within the regime, above all the Revolutionary Guards. All the sources consulted by the author’s researchers over the years have always denied that any decision had been taken on this matter and, clearly, if Khamenei had intended to produce atomic bombs when, in 1992, Benjamin Netanyahu, then merely an MP, began accusing Iran of pursuing that goal, Iran’s bomb would have been with us for several years already.

Iran’s nuclear programme: where do things stand?​

With uranium enriched to 60%, of which Iran had 441 kg according to the IAEA’s June 2025 report, it is already possible to build atomic bombs, but not models compact enough to be carried by Iran’s largest missiles, such as the Khorramshahr, which have a range of 2,000 km and a payload of almost 2 tonnes. To produce compact atomic bombs, highly enriched uranium is required. Moving from 60% to 90% enrichment would take only a few weeks, provided there are enough working advanced-model centrifuges, such as Iran’s IR-4 and IR-6. So if Iran had wanted to build an atomic bomb, by far the most logical option would have been to do so immediately after accumulating a substantial quantity of uranium enriched to 60%. Clearly, this had not yet happened, on the basis of the IAEA’s latest inspection. It would instead appear that Khamenei meant to use breaches of the non-proliferation framework to force the Americans to restore the 2015 agreement (JCPOA) or something similar.

Feel they support our position to be honest. If you have a different source then I'd be interested to read it

The Supreme Leader’s decision therefore appears to prioritise warhead development over enrichment. Enriching fissile material now would only risk leaving Iran in an extremely exposed position. Eventually, however, enrichment and warhead development will have to converge again, as fissile material is also required for cold tests

Which is what I said, they have the capabilities of enriching the uranium to the required levels in 2 weeks. They don't have the warhead capabilities.

 

[Lankers]

The truth is no one one here knows, I think it’s extremely naive to believe the Iranian regime wasn’t attempting to construct a viable atomic weapon, others believe they weren’t.it’s whether you’re prepared to take that risk.

Agreed, people really believe Irans "trust me, bro"... I and the West and China and Russia don't buy it for a second.

 

[The Flash]

You could ask anyone on here posting their views whilst being in possession of very little to no compassion, decency, intelligence or a grip on reality.

Edited for accuracy.

 

[Damocles]

The Supreme Leader’s decision therefore appears to prioritise warhead development over enrichment. Enriching fissile material now would only risk leaving Iran in an extremely exposed position. Eventually, however, enrichment and warhead development will have to converge again, as fissile material is also required for cold tests

Which is what I said, they have the capabilities of enriching the uranium to the required levels in 2 weeks. They don't have the warhead capabilities.

Sorry, I feel like we're miscommunicating, let me be more explicit.

Despite repeated accusations from Israel and often from the United States as well, up until the Twelve-Day War – the military confrontation between Israel and Iran in June 2025 – Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, had always blocked the final decision to move to 90% enrichment and to begin developing miniaturised nuclear warheads small enough to be deliverable

All the sources consulted by the author’s researchers over the years have always denied that any decision had been taken on this matter and, clearly, if Khamenei had intended to produce atomic bombs when, in 1992, Benjamin Netanyahu, then merely an MP, began accusing Iran of pursuing that goal, Iran’s bomb would have been with us for several years already.

With uranium enriched to 60%, of which Iran had 441 kg according to the IAEA’s June 2025 report, it is already possible to build atomic bombs, but not models compact enough to be carried by Iran’s largest missiles

So if Iran had wanted to build an atomic bomb, by far the most logical option would have been to do so immediately after accumulating a substantial quantity of uranium enriched to 60%. Clearly, this had not yet happened, on the basis of the IAEA’s latest inspection

It would instead appear that Khamenei meant to use breaches of the non-proliferation framework to force the Americans to restore the 2015 agreement (JCPOA) or something similar.

Your source seems very clear to me. If you have alternative sources, I'll read them too.

This is my point of argument, to be clear:

if Iran were to process its existing stockpile of 441 kg of 60% uranium with its advanced IR-4; and circulated accounts indicate the existence of an ultra-secret enrichment program at one of Iran's covert nuclear sites, to which the IAEA has not been given access.

That isnt what it says

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Can we guillotine him anyway?

Orf with his head!

 

[SWP's back]

The truth is no one one here knows, I think it’s extremely naive to believe the Iranian regime wasn’t attempting to construct a viable atomic weapon, others believe they weren’t.it’s whether you’re prepared to take that risk.

I know the safest bet was getting round a table, getting them to agree to a treaty and having inspectors have full access to their nuclear program.

Like Obama did. The agreement which Trump tore up. Which led us to here.

 

[The Flash]

I can't say this clearly enough, there are no experts in the field...

Errrrrm, Dr David Kelly's family may disagree. What?! Too Iraq?

 

[SWP's back]

Agreed, people really believe Irans "trust me, bro"... I and the West and China and Russia don't buy it for a second.

Russia you say:

Putin says Russia has told Israel there's no evidence Iran wants nuclear weapons, Sky News Arabia reports

Russia has repeatedly told Israel that there is no evidence Iran is aiming to get nuclear weapons, Sky News Arabia on Saturday quoted Russian President Vladimir Putin as saying in an interview.

www.reuters.com

 

[Vic]

Hegseth says Iran won’t be a ‘politically correct’ war as he lays out US objectives

Hegseth criticized the media, allies and former President Joe Biden during the 40-minute press conference

www.independent.co.uk

“No stupid rules of engagement, no nation-building quagmire, no democracy-building exercise, no politically-correct wars. We fight to win,”


So no positive outcomes for Iran then, probably just a different Ayatollah or a military Junta as soon as Trump's got his fix.

No war aims. Absolutely immoral.

 

[Lankers]

Sorry, I feel like we're miscommunicating, let me be more explicit.












Your source seems very clear to me. If you have alternative sources, I'll read them too.

This is my point of argument, to be clear:



That isnt what it says

Interesting, why were they developing "miniaturised nuclear warheads small enough to be deliverable" if they had no intention of developing nuclear weapons, seems odd

 

[Lankers]

Russia you say:

Putin says Russia has told Israel there's no evidence Iran wants nuclear weapons, Sky News Arabia reports

Russia has repeatedly told Israel that there is no evidence Iran is aiming to get nuclear weapons, Sky News Arabia on Saturday quoted Russian President Vladimir Putin as saying in an interview.

www.reuters.com

Engage brain ffs

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

 

[Damocles]

Interesting, why were they developing "miniaturised nuclear warheads small enough to be deliverable" if they had no intention of developing nuclear weapons, seems odd

Feel that was answered:

It would instead appear that Khamenei meant to use breaches of the non-proliferation framework to force the Americans to restore the 2015 agreement (JCPOA) or something similar.

 

[i kne albert davy]

I know the safest bet was getting round a table, getting them to agree to a treaty and having inspectors have full access to their nuclear program.

Like Obama did. The agreement which Trump tore up. Which led us to here.

Certainly would have been if it would have worked out that way,pretty sure the majority of the American people would have preferred that too. Smashing a country and people being killed on both sides very rarely comes good. Maybe I have a suspicious nature as to why a country awash in oil and sunshine for solar embarks on a nation bankrupting nuclear programme perhaps i should be more trusting.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Trump is a clueless arsehole.
A war just from the air cannot be won. It's mental that Trump even thinks it can.
Nor can regime change be successful without overwhelming support of the people and the elimination ( imprisonment as a minimum) of former government loyalists.

 

[Metal Biker]

Interesting, why were they developing "miniaturised nuclear warheads small enough to be deliverable" if they had no intention of developing nuclear weapons, seems odd

Says that they blocked the decision to make them, not that they actually had them.

Creating the enriched uranium is difficult in itself. Creating a device capable of detonating when you want it to is even harder. Doesn't sound like Iran was anywhere near that stage.

 

[Lankers]

Feel that was answered:

Instead of cherry picking bits from the article it, if you read the whole thing it is evidently clear that Iran is wanting to develop nuclear weapons and their shortcomings so far has been the warhead technology. Enrichment is a short process, why else do they have 441kg of 60% enriched uranium?

 

[Metal Biker]

Trump is a clueless arsehole.
A war just from the air cannot be won. It's mental that Trump even thinks it can.

Cue awkward hand waving

"We have the greatest air superiority in history, like never seen before. Our missiles will blot out the Sun."

 

[Lankers]

Says that they blocked the decision to make them, not that they actually had them.

Creating the enriched uranium is difficult in itself. Creating a device capable of detonating when you want it to is even harder. Doesn't sound like Iran was anywhere near that stage.

The Supreme Leader’s decision therefore appears to prioritise warhead development over enrichment

 

[Lankers]

Full article here https://www.ispionline.it/en/publication/crisis-to-watch-in-2026-iran-226527