US & Israel attack Iran

Trump is running out of options. And the ones he does have left range from bad to worse.

If he walks away now, it's utter humiliation. He's wasted God knows how many billions, lost 13 KIA and hundreds wounded, and achieved nothing of value. Iran still has a stranglehold on the Straits, Israel, KSA etc have taken hits and Trump has not only burned his bridges with European allies but urinated on the ashes. Iran will be able to claim, truthfully, that they defeated the Great Satan. Other terrorist groups will rush to align themselves with the IRGC. It will be the greatest victory for Islamic terrorism since 9/11 itself.

If he invades Kharg Island, the number of Americans killed and wounded so far in this conflict increases exponentially. Depending on how long they stay there, casualties could well outstrip Afghanistan. And even if they take and hold the island, that still doesn't mean they'll be able to keep the Straits open for business. The kind of loss of blood and treasure is a non-survivable wound politically speaking. Trump would be lucky if he made it to the Mid-Terms without the 25th Amendment being invoked. Given what an utter cluster fornication he's made of this, it would be difficult for even the GOP to argue he wasn't unfit for office.

Trump ups the ante and destroys Iran's critical infrastructure such as desalinization plants etc? Not only is that a war crime - and yes, I know Trump doesn't care about that - but Iran will almost certainly retaliate by hitting similar targets across the Middle East. And the USA will have lost whatever tiny sliver of moral authority it has left. Oh, and we would certainly see another uptick in terror attacks across America and Europe. As well as sabotage against CNI carried out by organised crime proxies paid by Iran.

I was going to rule out insane decisions like a full-scale invasion of Iran, or even the limited use of nuclear weapons...but at this point Trump's so far off the reservation I'm not sure even he can guess his own next move.

In short, this won't end well.

I think the best option is he declares victory with the strait unresolved and everyone else has to reach their own deal with Iran.

1) It stops the bombing/killing
2) Everyone knows it's a Trump defeat
3) Weakens US hegemony and furthers EU independence from USA
4) Iran ends up with some financial restitution for the war via some toll scheme, but also the Gulf states start looking at ways to divert oil away from the strait and stop it being such a bottleneck which benefits us all long term.
 
Pete's Got Bombs is yee-hawing away about how great everything is, and all the people want is more and bigger bombs.
And, yep, the Iranians are hiding in caves apparently.

He also doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.
 
They couldn't take Iraq after 10 years of war
Maybe something to do by almost total weapons embargo on Iran during 80-88 war and concerted effort to supply Iraqis with everything they needed to keep Iran in check and yet not becoming to strong. France even supplied them with Superetendards armed with Exocet rockets, loaning them until they supplied them with Mirage F-1s. Or being happy watching apartheid South Africa supplying them with G5 howitzers. And a small business of Germans developing certain naughty thing called chemical weapons developed exclusively for Saddam.
My intention is not to write Iran-friendly post, just state the facts that we've been wagging a war against them this or that way for 47 years. I am actually surprised they didn't developed the bloody thing or lashed out earlier.
 
Pete's Got Bombs is yee-hawing away about how great everything is, and all the people want is more and bigger bombs.
And, yep, the Iranians are hiding in caves apparently.

He also doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.
SNL writers will be gutted the show is mid season break.
 
Where’s the video of the aircraft carrier?

Can't get the video to work here for some reason but the link works


The video does play though and will look like this with a play button.

The US military is designed for a 1950-1990's war. They are majorly behind on drones.

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And there we go.

From having and bragging that he wanted nothing to do with this War.

He then let our bases to be used only for defence reasons by the americans. Changed that to allow them to attack Iranians. Now the Troops are going over.

An absolute fuckin ****!

If taken on face value he's just sending troops with anti air systems ( Sky Sabre ) to help run those anti air system and train rather than front line troops.

and I hope it remains just that. Assisting Allies with defence and not getting involved in attacks.

Edit: Bit disappointing we've not sent these to Ukraine to be honest.
 
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Fuck off sending our troops over there. This is all yanks and Israel doing. The war is illegal we shouldn't be getting bed with this orange ****
That isn’t what’s being reported though, the report is talking about helping defend Saudi, Qatar ,Bahrain and Kuwait. Nothing to do with helping in Trumps war.
 

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