US & Israel attack Iran

[LesBleuMiserable]

Zelenskyy proposes an ETNU, EU Turkey, Norway and Ukraine defensive alliance. I’d like to see this I think it could work? it would be safer with Zelensky on board with his battle experience in defence

Same Zelensky who supports Israel? Hypocrite!

 

[domalino]

How are you supposed to negotiate with these people?

 

[Ban-jani]

Why?
We either support Ukraine to the hilt or support Russia by doing fuck all.
You have been listening too much to Putin propaganda.

What do you mean by “support Ukraine to the hilt”?

I don’t think you actually understand what I am saying, there’s no way you’d think I was listening to Putin propaganda if you knew my position.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Same Zelensky who supports Israel? Hypocrite!

It's interesting that dance that America makes you do in order to get aid from them.

You may have to say a ton of stuff you don't want to.

How are you supposed to negotiate with these people?

Reminds me of people that were trying to get green cards here in the US and said they could buy it off some guy who could put them in line even if they had not authority to do it what so ever.

Bunch of scam artists looking for stupid people who will take them at their word and give them money. And the Saudi's have given them what 2 billion?

Heck how much has Abu Dhabi given them?

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

How come the only consequences for war crimes is the risk of featuring in South Park?

 

[TinFoilHat]

Why is the US sending Vance and not its negotiators extraordinaire Kushner and Witkoff? Having ended the war in Ukraine and brought peace to Gaza, their diplomatic prowess will be sorely missed in Islamabad…

Interestingly Vance's people are saying he didn't want any part in this war.

Makes me wonder if he's preparing to coordinate getting rid of Shitgibbon?

Also sending him means if Shitgibbon starts bombing again he can blame him for being a poor negotiatior.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Heck how much has Abu Dhabi given them?

Oh FFS.

Starmer is Arsenal fan. Is he using the conflict to force City to be sold?

;)

 

[Vic]

How come the only consequences for war crimes is the risk of featuring in South Park?

There's also the Lego Legacy

 

[Ban-jani]

Oh FFS.

Starmer is Arsenal fan. Is he using the conflict to force City to be sold?

;)

Arsenal have had a fortune from the UAE in sponsorship money.

 

[Blue Mist]

It seems the Board of Peace set up by trump has lost its first war.

Mind you it's made him millions so he's a winner

 

[Gabriel]

Interestingly Vance's people are saying he didn't want any part in this war.

Makes me wonder if he's preparing to coordinate getting rid of Shitgibbon?

Also sending him means if Shitgibbon starts bombing again he can blame him for being a poor negotiatior.

The New York Times reported that Vance opposed the decision but said he would support Trump whatever, so to the Iranians he probably appears the least hawkish. However, there can be little trust in either direction, and the continued build up of personnel and materiel in the Middle East suggests that this ceasefire will hold just long enough for the Americans to have the desired forces in place for its next offensive.

 

[Scottyboi]

Interestingly Vance's people are saying he didn't want any part in this war.

Makes me wonder if he's preparing to coordinate getting rid of Shitgibbon?

Also sending him means if Shitgibbon starts bombing again he can blame him for being a poor negotiatior.

Or trump sees him as a threat, sends him to Hungary which hopefully sees Orban fall. And then sends him to negotiate with Iran knowing they will fail so Vance can take the heat for it.

 

[grunge]

Same Zelensky who supports Israel? Hypocrite!

Shocking how the leader of a country in desperate need to anti air missiles didn’t condemn the country he was trying to buy anti air missile systems from.

What do you think is more important to Ukraine? Moral high ground or saving lives of its citizens?

 

[Palerider]

Shocking how the leader of a country in desperate need to anti air missiles didn’t condemn the country he was trying to buy anti air missile systems from.

What do you think is more important to Ukraine? Moral high ground or saving lives of its citizens?

Very good point. If you are drowning you do not care whose hand it is that drags you out of the water.

In order to defeat Hitler, the second most murderous dictator in history, we climbed into bed with Stalin, the first most murderous dictator in history.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Shocking how the leader of a country in desperate need to anti air missiles didn’t condemn the country he was trying to buy anti air missile systems from.

What do you think is more important to Ukraine? Moral high ground or saving lives of its citizens?

Exactly right.

There are a few posters here who seem to have no fucking idea how to make a decision between two bad alternatives, nor do they demonstrate empathy for those who have to make them.

I guarantee you that IRL not one of them has a single personal or professional accomplishment beyond the bog standard.

Their posts are like wearing a giant online “I’m personally mediocre” t-shirt.

 

[SilverFox2]

Just wondering that as Trump seems intent on alienating NATO countries and seems close to Russia and afraid of China then why should we not get closer to China?
Has our anti China attitude been fostered by USA or is there genuine reasons to fear a Country we already trade with at most levels?

 

[117 M34]

Been waiting to put petrol in my car since the war 'ended' thinking prices would start to come down since oil prices have reduced but they haven't reduced at all.

 

[Scottyboi]

Been waiting to put petrol in my car since the war 'ended' thinking prices would start to come down since oil prices have reduced but they haven't reduced at all.

Why would they come down though, no ships are getting through still and it will take weeks for supplies to make landfall here.

 

[dickie davies]

Been waiting to put petrol in my car since the war 'ended' thinking prices would start to come down since oil prices have reduced but they haven't reduced at all.

It'll be at least six months and they may rise further first

 

[The blue phantom]

Quality