US Politics Thread

[TinFoilHat]

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

New US security strategy aligns with Russia's vision, Moscow says

The Kremlin welcomes the starkly worded document, which does not cast Russia as a threat to the US.

www.bbc.co.uk

When are the key decision makers in this country going to wake up and realise that the US are no longer our friends and allies?

 

[cookster]

New US security strategy aligns with Russia's vision, Moscow says

The Kremlin welcomes the starkly worded document, which does not cast Russia as a threat to the US.

www.bbc.co.uk

When are the key decision makers in this country going to wake up and realise that the US are no longer our friends and allies?

It's a waiting game.
Flawed strategy, hoping in 12 months time, Trump will be a lame duck and the adults will take over again.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It's a waiting game.
Flawed strategy, hoping in 12 months time, Trump will be a lame duck and the adults will take over again.

I fear it may be too late by then. Assuming the midterms happen and are fee and fair.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Here is the number 2 at the DoJ saying that law firms lack of loyalty towards the dear leader will effect outcomes in corporate law disputes against the government. But it's not fascism, right?

 

[Scottyboi]

It's a waiting game.
Flawed strategy, hoping in 12 months time, Trump will be a lame duck and the adults will take over again.

Far too late by then, we already make decisions slow enough as it is. I reckon Europe finally realised what was to come when trump and vance ambushed Zelensky at the white house and tried to humiliate him.

Japan,Taiwan and South Korea need to wake up too as we're all getting hung out to dry together.

 

[Strangerepublic]

A pardon only absolves him of Federal crimes. If (and I suspect he has) committed international crimes, then it becomes a different matter altogether.

Gets a Nobel peace prize then I suppose?

 

[super_city_si]

I’m not so sure that’s going to be as much of a certainty as it once was.

Might be a separation of the UK and EU in this regard. EU will tell the US to go fuck themselves but UK might not be so quick especially with the rise of populist opportunists.

 

[cookster]

Might be a separation of the UK and EU in this regard. EU will tell the US to go fuck themselves but UK might not be so quick especially with the rise of populist opportunists.

The US sneezes the UK catches the cold.

 

[cookster]

I fear it may be too late by then. Assuming the midterms happen and are fee and fair.

Agree, a flawed strategy.
The UK, Europe and our allies need to send a clear message and soon.
I doubt it'll happen though.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Long but interesting thread.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Agree, a flawed strategy.
The UK, Europe and our allies need to send a clear message and soon.
I doubt it'll happen though.

Highly unlikely.

 

[bluethrunthru]

ha ha ha - busted

 

[roubaixtuesday]

A pardon only absolves him of Federal crimes. If (and I suspect he has) committed international crimes, then it becomes a different matter altogether.

The Yanks never signed up to the ICC.

There's no one to prosecute him.

All of the criminal family running the US are free of any fear of consequence, and they gleefully know it

 

[AliBobbyJ]

I've lived and worked in the U.S. since the Mets last won the World Series. Had a good career, paid taxes, traveled all over. and will probably die here. But I never became a citizen, being too irredeemably English to swear loyalty to another country. But at 77 I'm going to do it. When the ceremony's done and they hand me my piece of paper I want to ask "So I'm a U.S. citizen now? And i can speak my mind?" And when they tell me yes I'll say "well then, Donald Trump is an evil **** and I bet a lot of you in this hall agree."

 

[Grassland Blue]

Bubba is a nickname given to Bill Clinton and Epstein's brother...

Here's me, thinking that it was Michael Jackson's pet chimp.....

 

[Blue Maverick]

I have just watched the new film Nuremberg and I tell you the end of that film scares the shit out of me because it’s happening again and this time in the most powerful nation on earth and there won’t be a Nuremberg trial for this lot unfortunately.

 

[Grassland Blue]

US has published its new National Security strategy.

As you'd expect, it's completely bonkers and borderline fascist, requiring in the US "growing numbers of strong, traditional families that raise healthy children."

But of note it explicitly makes it clear than European democracies are the enemy of the US and they plan to undermine us by supporting the far right.

Support for the AfD etc al:

"America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote this revival of spirit, and the growing influence of patriotic European parties indeed gives cause for great optimism."

The US will be..

"Cultivating resistance to Europe’s current trajectory within European nations"

They're not pretending any more: they are our enemy.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf

Is this what Brexit was all about?
Yanks not wanting the UK to be part of a European superstate?
Makes you wonder.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Is this what Brexit was all about?
Yanks not wanting the UK to be part of a European superstate?
Makes you wonder.

Lock-step with Russian foreign policy. Those allegations of Trump being a Kremlin asset aren't going away any time soon.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Is this what Brexit was all about?
Yanks not wanting the UK to be part of a European superstate?
Makes you wonder.

Probably a bit more to it, with equal measure from both the east and west of us. Isolated the UK as a major financial hub while diminishing the EU. Build on further far right politics across the region, destabilising the centralised approach and giving an easier rise to authoritarian rule.

History will tell the story, but let’s see how far the people, us people, allow this to happen.