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The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has unanimously ruled the federal government can deport foreign nationals who are in the U.S. illegally, even over the objections of local authorities.

Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324

Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.
 
super_city_si said:
The partisan republican congress has been investigating for 2 years and found nothing.
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They actually haven't. Is there a special counsel like there was for Russiagate? Nooooo!!!

I'm not saying there is something. But let's stop pretending they've been investigating deeply. They haven't. And they probably won't once Biden leaves office.
 
Username Required said:
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has unanimously ruled the federal government can deport foreign nationals who are in the U.S. illegally, even over the objections of local authorities.

Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324

Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.
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I wonder how many undocumented workers there are at Mar a lago?
 
Username Required said:
lol "Your lot". I'm a Massachusetts Independent that has never voted for Trump. You're all such binary thinkers when it comes to this stuff, which is ironic when you think about it.

The ghost of Joe McCarthy! I'm crying. It'll be Torquemada next. The Gestapo with piano wire! Who knew Merrick Garland worked for Trump. It's confusing because I thought Democrats were hot stuff when it came to gun laws and everyone paying their fair share. Lead by example eh? It's what I'd expect society's superior people to do.

And you still can't admit Joe Biden lied and you bought it.

And if you thought Joe Biden was wrong for saying he would never pardon his son "for crimes rarely prosecuted at any level" you should have spoken out at the time. Did you? Or was it politically expedient for Biden and the Democrats to give the impression that Biden was above and beyond it all when it came to the administration of the law and respecting grand juries and juries - a nice contrast during the election run in to the lawless Donald Trump.

You know, you're right, we ought to go after the Clintons.

The New York Times has reported that leaders of a Canadian mining company with extensive U.S. uranium stakes made large donations to the Clinton family foundation at a time when Russia was acquiring the firm in a deal approved by the State Department under Hillary Clinton.

According to the report, Canadian records show that "a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation" as the Russian state nuclear corporation Rosatom was in the process of assuming control of the Canadian company, Uranium One, in three transactions from 2009 to 2013.

The Times said the deal, which gave Russia control of one-fifth of the U.S. uranium production capacity, required approval by a committee composed of representatives of several U.S. government agencies. It said the State Department, under Clinton, "eventually signed off" on it.

The newspaper quoted a spokesman for Clinton's campaign as saying nobody "has ever produced a shred of evidence that she ever took action as secretary of state to support the interests of donors to the Clinton Foundation."

The Times said that Uranium One's chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.25 million, and that other people with ties to the company also had made donations.

It said that not long after Russia announced its intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Bill Clinton "received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock."

The New York Times report said it was unclear whether the donations played any role in approval of the deal, which advanced Russian President Vladimir Putin's goal of increasing the Russian share of the world uranium supply chain.
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I can't be arsed unpicking that lot, but the fact you think the Joe McCarthy attempted blackmail which led to the death of a sitting Democrat Senator by suicide is somehow irrelevant to the current state of affairs then I'm not going to spell it out for you.

And for the record, I think Biden was wrong to pardon his son, although I can understand why he did. I think the pardon powers have been systematically abused by presidents on both sides of the divide down the years, and non more so than Trump. The pardoning of Kushner and subsequent nomination for ambassador to France is disgusting. If he (when) he pardons the Jan 6 rioters who committed crimes during the breaching of the Capitol buildings, then it will be a huge slap in the face for lawmakers and police officers on duty that day.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I can't be arsed unpicking that lot, but the fact you think the Joe McCarthy attempted blackmail which led to the death of a sitting Democrat Senator by suicide is somehow irrelevant to the current state of affairs then I'm not going to spell it out for you.

And for the record, I think Biden was wrong to pardon his son, although I can understand why he did. I think the pardon powers have been systematically abused by presidents on both sides of the divide down the years, and non more so than Trump. The pardoning of Kushner and subsequent nomination for ambassador to France is disgusting. If he (when) he pardons the Jan 6 rioters who committed crimes during the breaching of the Capitol buildings, then it will be a huge slap in the face for lawmakers and police officers on duty that day.
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Look, if Joe Biden really thought Hunter was being unfairly targeted he should have said so last year as it was pretty clear then wasn't it? The facts haven't suddenly changed. The problem of course would have been if he had said that, Republicans would have immediately accused him of "interference" or some such thing. Also if he had said anything, then people would have asked how he could say that when Merrick Garland runs the DOJ, not David Weiss. Of course it was an election year...the whole thing is a mess. I'll buy that the reason the pardon goes back to 2014 and covers anything imaginable is because he is genuinely concerned that Trumps DOJ will go after him when there really is nothing to investigate. Fine. Hunter Biden being Joe's son does not mean Hunter Biden is not a U.S. Citizen, right?

I'll accept that Joe Biden never lied when he said he would let the process play out. He didn't lie he meant it. I'll accept that his position was not an election stunt to differentiate himself from the ever-lawless Donald Trump.

So, the aging Joe Biden, not in the best of health, is in Nantucket with his whole family. It's Thanksgiving, and he is aware that it might be his last. After dinner, as the rest of the family goes for a brisk walk on the beach he's sitting alone in front of the fire, making pictures in the flames and going over the day, his life, his family...he thinks about Beau. It hurts like hell. Jill appears, kneels next to him and brings up Hunter, his remaining son. What are we going to do about him, he's never been like Beau, it's always been a struggle.

Right then and there, Joe makes his mind up. Truthfully he's been thinking about it since the election when reality slapped him in the face. Only now though, he's decided to act.

Fine. Fair enough. It's called the prerogative of mercy for a reason and Hunter is more than his son, he is a U.S. Citizen, with all rights appurtenant.

I'm surprised Hunter has made it this far. The public outing of his behavior has disgusted me no-end. People have 100% enjoyed the cruelty, if cruelty is the right word. The fact he hasn't attempted suicide says a lot about him, more than his descent in self-destructive behavior imo.

As for Charles Kushner, well he served his time and he appears to have engaged in some good works since then, but even so I think it's pretty disgusting to nominate him Ambassador to France.
 
Dax777 said:
Our Judiciary is NOT owned. That's simply how Left leaning Americans (mostly those here) frame it.

The left and the right in America have a different World View, and when either comes to power and there is a judicial vacancy, whoever is in office picks a judge who's worldview are philosophically in line with theirs.

The pretense that the Judiciary is owned is just an often repeated lie. They simply don't agree with that worldview.


I'm not sure that's what I said. Rather I think I said the us vs them mentality of politics vis everywhere in the West.

So is more like City vs United. City fans don't quote supporting City if Cory gets a soft penalty given to them. Yet we'd go ape-shit cursing out the same outcome of it happened against City and for day United.

That bunkering mentality makes politics intuitively dishonest. But with our sports teams the stakes for fanatical support are low..Not the same for politics.



Do I want a less corrupt government? Come on man, who doesn't?




You are pardoned.
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I am struggling to understand what world view Aileen Cannon holds that entitles her to ignore SCOTUS precedent and rule that special counsels are not lawful.
 
Username Required said:
'First of all, one of the things that the president always believes is to be truthful to the American people,' she said. 'That is something that he always truly believes.'
Karine Jean-Pierre today.

“…the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is White supremacy.”
Joe Biden, May 16th 2023.

"Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic."
Joe Biden, September 1st 2022

"Whether democracy is still America's sacred cause is the most urgent question of our time," the president said during his remarks. "That's what the 2024 election is all about."

"Today I make this sacred pledge to you: The defense, protection and preservation of American democracy would remain, as it has been, the central cause of my presidency," Biden said.

"Trump's assault on democracy isn't just part of his past. It's what he's promising for the future," Biden said later. "He's being straightforward. He's not hiding the ball."
Joe Biden, January 5th 2024

“Congratulations, I’m looking forward to having, like we said, a smooth transition, welcome back."
“I assured him that I’d direct my entire administration to work with his team,”
Joe Biden on meeting Donald Trump in the White House, November 13th 2024.
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Don’t forget, the outgoing president is required by statute to aid the transition. Is it called the Transition Act, something like that.
 
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