US Politics Thread

I've criticised trump for plenty, and don't defend his comments ever. I just don't agree with the 'next hitler' rhetoric. Just because I don't agree doesn't make me a 'good German' or an enabler of trump.
Like I said, far too subtle.

I don't think people are saying Trump is the next Hitler. But his language, his rhetoric and a lot of his behaviour warrants criticism.

And you can't expect people to just ignore when his chief of staff comes out with the comments he did.
 
I think his worst ideas are as unlikely to be implemented as his economic promises. I still think there are too many checks and balances in the system - the largest being that 10000 people are involved/ appointed in a new American government. It's not just trump and his maga inner circle. He had a difficult relationship with the intelligence community and senior military staff officers last time, so I think there are also barriers to extremism there.
But we as America don’t even need to take that chance, right? Just vote for Harris — a normal person, a normal politician, whose probably left of center more than some but otherwise a bog-standard Democrat.

Doesn’t seem too difficult.
 
He’ll withdraw support for Ukraine, and negotiate a peace deal where everything bar Crimea is handed back, under the conditions of NATO being disbanded and Ukraine joining the EU, probably with some sort of Russian peace keepers in the Donbas.
I agree with the first part about Trump withdrawing support for Ukraine, but not the rest of what you posted which tbf is well particularised.

I think, like Putin, Trump will greatly underestimate the will amongst other NATO members to (somewhat belatedly) continue to stand up to the very real threat that Russia poses to democracy and freedom in Western Europe.

Theoretically the US could leave NATO, although that won’t be solely up to Trump, but the rest of Western Europe will have to stand together and be faced with some serious choices about its commitment to repelling Russian aggression.

Assuming what remains of NATO decides to continue materially supporting Ukraine then this will unquestionably worsen transatlantic relations further.

Your output on this particular subject appears to be predicated on Russia under Putin being trusted to keep to any agreement that it signs, which it absolutely will not. History confirms this to be the case.

Do you actually think they will? Either you do, in which case you are hugely naive, or you don’t, in which case your views and ideas are fundamentally flawed, as it means you wanting Western Europe to sign an agreement with Russia that you do not believe the latter will keep to, made even more likely with an attenuated NATO.

So which is it?

In my opinion, they will simply rearm and go again in a few years, and I’d be interested to hear any reasoning as to why you believe this wouldn’t be the case, given the regime we are talking about, namely one that is partnered up with North Korea, has repeatedly threatened to use nukes in the last three years and one that sent radioactive material over to the UK in order to murder people living here.

That is what we would be ‘negotiating’ with.
 
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I know, it’s pretty obvious to everyone, I hope it’s the left kicking off, looks like it’s going to be that way.

FWIW I think Trump will win and be a disaster, but also think it’s a no win situation. I think he’s going to isolate the US economically, and I foresee a lack of intervention in foreign tensions (outside of Israel) causing a lot more drama (and I think he’ll be right in doing so).

He’ll withdraw support for Ukraine, and negotiate a peace deal where everything bar Crimea is handed back, under the conditions of NATO being disbanded and Ukraine joining the EU, probably with some sort of Russian peace keepers in the Donbas.

BRICs membership will continue to grow and US government spending will be halved; these will offset each other as far as the dollar is concerned with it slightly weakening.

I think this will be better for the US, because it’s such a big country and so self sufficient I think it’ll strengthen internally but become a much smaller player internationally, with China taking up the difference, who, I believe, will be a much more responsible power.
Crikey
 
That nobhead was an apologist for Putin right at the start of the invasion so it’s absolutely no surprise he would prefer a Trump win in the election.
As an outsider I wanted Kennedy, Trump is a buffoon, probably the best option out of the two, I’m by no means a fan.
 
That nobhead was an apologist for Putin right at the start of the invasion so it’s absolutely no surprise he would prefer a Trump win in the election.
I was just taken aback by the sweep of his nonsense, which included the classic that US gov spending will be halved, thus making way for the much more responsible power that is China.
 
That nobhead was an apologist for Putin right at the start of the invasion so it’s absolutely no surprise he would prefer a Trump win in the election.
Ultimately the Ukraine thing will end up like all wars with people sat round a table. I agree with him on trump cutting Ukraine loose, but not on the post war settlement. I think it's more likely to be a 'frozen conflict' pretty much with the territorial lines as they stand.
 

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