I voted FOR the change in the re-felonization.Projection much? Leftist are the ones who've always called anyone who didn't tow their ever changing lines as RWNJs. Just like you have done in the 2 prior posts above.
Anyway, i guess this is your new framing. You as part of the "sane and rational" people seeking common sense compromise of course. And on the other side, the insane MAGA who only care about extremist rhetoric. How quaint.
Again this is a false frame. MAGA is not the reason why every State in the country shifted Right. Those are your fellow "sane and rational" folks who are not satisfied with the present reality.
MAGA is NOT the reason 10 blue Counties in your State of California turned red. It's not the reason the AG of your State got bounced by an independent. It's not the reason why the Mayor of your own City got bounced. It's not the reason why your State voted to re-felonize shoplifting.
You can continue fantasizing about Extremist RWNJs and their stupidity. But it won't change what's happening in your backyard. And everyday people with common sense will react as they see fit. Regardless of what fantasy Foggy and his high society friends are currently entertaining.
I'm sorry to butt in here, but I see parallels with the approach we had here in the UK, with regards to the Brexit vote/fall out.I voted FOR the change in the re-felonization.
You voted FOR a felon.
Do you see the difference?
You don’t.
There’s your problem.
But hey — the side you adopted out of Stockholm Syndrome and abject desperation to be accepted by someone is in control now.
We know exactly who to blame if it gets all fucked up.
What, exactly, is the argument for voting for a felon for US President . . . and then trusting what he has to say?I'm sorry to butt in here, but I see parallels with the approach we had here in the UK, with regards to the Brexit vote/fall out.
I voted Remain, and really could not believe what we had done, for even years after. I thought every "Brexiteer" was an absolute fuckwit. I truly hated what they had done. Wouldn't listen to anything they had to say. Still don't, to some extent.
Yet I now realise that calling them deluded fuckwits didn't/doesn't help.
They had an opinion that wasn't totally mine, but they had points that needed addressing.
Nobody has all the answers to everything, despite which side they take.
And sometimes you need to look at your own argument and be big enough to recognise why and how that fell down.
It certainly wasn't because Kamala was a black woman, or because Trump promised peanut butter or egg price reductions ;-)
What, exactly, is the argument for voting for a felon for US President . . . and then trusting what he has to say?
I guess it's that the problems seem so big we'll turn to anyone who claims they can fix them. Even Trump.
Ok then. He better.
Thing is -- if he doesn't, those who voted for him will never, ever, ever come here and say they were wrong. They'll just turn to the next -- probably worse -- person in line.
The biggest supporter here won't even say one word wrong about Matt Gaetz. Just ignores it. Pretends it never happened.
Who can trust them to make a good choice about anything?
I realiz(s)e you are trying to be rational.All I'm seeing, from thousands of miles away (and completely neutral) is that a felon beat your candidate.
Let that sink in....a felon (although I know you get that).
Why?
You can say that is because of "dumbing down" or whatever (and I'm not disagreeing) but the point remains that fighting dirtier won't address it. It remains with the Dems to get their shit together and actually "speak" to the electorate.
To give them something other than celeb endorsements, "aspirational" nice words and phrases and actually find their real voice again.
With a stronger candidate with a clean slate. Who addressed their issues.Awesome.
Who would have beat him?
How do you convince someone who would vote for a felon not to vote for him?
That’s a great post.I'm sorry to butt in here, but I see parallels with the approach we had here in the UK, with regards to the Brexit vote/fall out.
I voted Remain, and really could not believe what we had done, for even years after. I thought every "Brexiteer" was an absolute fuckwit. I truly hated what they had done. Wouldn't listen to anything they had to say. Still don't, to some extent.
Yet I now realise that calling them deluded fuckwits didn't/doesn't help.
They had an opinion that wasn't totally mine, but they had points that needed addressing.
Nobody has all the answers to everything, despite which side they take.
And sometimes you need to look at your own argument and be big enough to recognise why and how that fell down.
It certainly wasn't because Kamala was a black woman, or because Trump promised peanut butter or egg price reductions ;-)
Awesome again.With a stronger candidate with a clean slate. Who addressed their issues.
It's not rocket science.
Awesome again.
WHO SPECIFICALLY?
It's not rocket science when you don't put up a name or names.
I realiz(s)e you are trying to be rational.
Let me give you an example from my own life.
25 years ago I ran a business selling big ticket retail items that typically required financing. My competitor next door selling similar product was actually falsifying W2s to get their customers financed. Moreover the same banks who turned down customers I sent approved the loans from our competitor KNOWING the W2s were forged because they'd already seen and turned down the customers based on their real W2s. It should be no surprise that Deutsche Bank was one of them but not the only one.
So I quit. I closed our store, and walked away.
Thank god, because a year or so later, the whole industry blew up, product shipments fell 80%, have ever recovered and many of the banks involved were sued, disappeared, got out of the business, etc. Sales are today about 30% of what they were at the peak.
At the time, customers just wanted the product. Breaking the law didn't matter to them. My competitor just wanted the sale. Breaking the law didn't matter to him.
But what should I have done? Come up with a better way to "speak" to my customers, eh?
Hopefully this example is illustrative.