US Politics Thread

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Nope. And MAGA's willing to live with that problem as long as the price of peanut butter declines by 10 cents a jar (which was all Joe Biden's fault).

MAGA don't generally see guns as a problem in the first place. More of a 'solution' if it all goes sideways. Those with the biggest guns get the most food.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

it's actually easy to resolve, give/impose on the illegals (pick whichever suits your viewpoint) a temporary visa allowing them to work and live in the USA for a period of, let's say 2 years, during which time they must apply for full residency. This gets them in the system, gets them paying taxes, gets them access to benefits and healthcare and gives them a route to a "better life". USA retains the benefit of the workers.

Failing to register becomes a deportable offense within oh I don't know, 6 months, meaning you should then have a smaller issue to deal with.

Of course to make it attractive, the permanent residency should be readily achievable, rule out those with criminal records for violent, sexual or class A drug offenses, let the rest in.

Obviously you'll have to absorb any economic impact of higher wages, higher social security costs etc, but hey, there's no such thing as a free lunch is there?

This politics lark is easy , Vote Flook for PM/Prez

It's a good idea, but the economic impact will still be huge and could easily crash the economy.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

it's actually easy to resolve, give/impose on the illegals (pick whichever suits your viewpoint) a temporary visa allowing them to work and live in the USA for a period of, let's say 2 years, during which time they must apply for full residency. This gets them in the system, gets them paying taxes, gets them access to benefits and healthcare and gives them a route to a "better life". USA retains the benefit of the workers.

Failing to register becomes a deportable offense within oh I don't know, 6 months, meaning you should then have a smaller issue to deal with.

Of course to make it attractive, the permanent residency should be readily achievable, rule out those with criminal records for violent, sexual or class A drug offenses, let the rest in.

Obviously you'll have to absorb any economic impact of higher wages, higher social security costs etc, but hey, there's no such thing as a free lunch is there?

This politics lark is easy , Vote Flook for PM/Prez

I think many here who are trying for thoughtful compromises don't understand the real problem.

The real problem is that illegal immigrants -- whether they stay, get amnesty, a special visa or whatever -- get "special treatment."

They get something Trump supporters don't/didn't/can't.

That's "not fair."

So there's no "fair" solution except deport them all.

 

[flook]

I think many here who are trying for thoughtful compromises don't understand the real problem.

The real problem is that illegal immigrants -- whether they stay, get amnesty, a special visa or whatever -- get "special treatment."

They get something Trump supporters don't/didn't/can't.

That's "not fair."

So there's no "fair" solution except deport them all.

which was the stance when the orange shit-gibbon was electioneering, different now though as its damn near impossible to execute

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I think many here who are trying for thoughtful compromises don't understand the real problem.

The real problem is that illegal immigrants -- whether they stay, get amnesty, a special visa or whatever -- get "special treatment."

They get something Trump supporters don't/didn't/can't.

That's "not fair."

So there's no "fair" solution except deport them all.

The people who decry the situation as 'unfair' rarely understand the fact that they have personally benefitted from the current situation, and the ones that cry the loudest are often a net drain on society. If every single worker in the US was documented and legal, prices for most consumer goods and services would be much higher than they are now.