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So all the Democrats saying they are shocked are lying when they say they are shocked?

In fact, they are not shocked because all along they knew honest Joe was lying to them when he said he was going to respect the verdict of the jury etc etc and when they all commended honest Joe Biden for his principled commitment to the rule of law they did so in bad faith knowing he was lying.

So what you are saying is that honest Joe Biden and the Democrats all lied to the American people to their face for over a year whilst pretending to hold a position based on the noblest of ideals. Got it.

And when honest Joe Biden and the Democrats said that Trump is an existential threat to democracy they were speaking in good faith? Honest Joe Biden and the Democrats speaking in the noblest of terms with soaring patriotic rhetoric about defending America from White supremacy. Then honest Joe Biden appears in the White House congratulating the existential threat to democracy, welcoming said existential threat, smiling and full of good cheer promising a smooth transition of power with both teams working together.

I think it's pretty clear what the deal is. Deflector shields at maximum.
I think Chicagoblue is arguing that Democrats are "lying, devious, pony-faced sons of bitches"


@ChicagoBlue say it ain't so!
 
If I thought he was, I'd freely admit it...

Nonsense. Which party weaponised GOP? It wasn't the Republicians for sure.

TRUMP: We have, we have, we have won this election in Georgia based on all of this. And there’s, there’s nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. You know, I mean, having the, having a correct — the people of Georgia are angry and these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night, along with others that we’re going to have by that time, which are much more substantial even. And the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated because the 2,236 and absentee ballots, I mean, they're all exact numbers that were, were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut ’em in half, cut ’em in half and cut ’em in half again, it’s more votes than we need.
 
TRUMP: We have, we have, we have won this election in Georgia based on all of this. And there’s, there’s nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. You know, I mean, having the, having a correct — the people of Georgia are angry and these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night, along with others that we’re going to have by that time, which are much more substantial even. And the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated because the 2,236 and absentee ballots, I mean, they're all exact numbers that were, were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut ’em in half, cut ’em in half and cut ’em in half again, it’s more votes than we need.
2020?
 
I think things got a little hysterical on here in the lead up to the GE and a few posters seemed to want this thread to be a democrat anti trump safe space for whatever reason. Anyone that veered from that was accused of being at least a rabid trumper and often equated to Nazis. You can probably just shrug it off as their problem, not yours.
History will be the ultimate decider. The fact that some Trump supporters on here are trying to occupy a made-up fantasy world moral high ground over Biden's pardon is frankly laughable.
 
As in to come round to your point of view? I've tried that.
No, to educate yourself. You'll never come around to my point of view, obviously. But the story of Watergate is interesting -- a lot of things both sides think we've never seen before we absolutely have seen before -- but politicians and the public reacted very differently to crimes and lying then.
 
No, to educate yourself. You'll never come around to my point of view, obviously. But the story of Watergate is interesting -- a lot of things both sides think we've never seen before we absolutely have seen before -- but politicians and the public reacted very differently to crimes and lying then.
Gingrich has got a lot to answer for.
 
History will be the ultimate decider. The fact that some Trump supporters on here are trying to occupy a made-up fantasy world moral high ground over Biden's pardon is frankly laughable.
They've been doing it since 2015; it's 100% par for the course. If it wasn't this it'd be something else. And if you say, as I did, I think Biden is 100% in the wrong here, they pretend a) you never said it and b) refuse to acknowledge the same about their own guy's mistakes/misdeeds and/or simply use it as cover for them.
 

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