US Politics Thread

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Yes., A bias towards common sense. Who is more likely to be harmed by the leak? That side is less likely to have leaked it.

Clearly, neither one of, You, I, Swp-dunce nor Amy 'i once clerked at the Supreme Court' have a clue.

But if one were to use commons sense, the kind of question one might ask may follow the lines of: Who does the leak harm or help?

Certainly such thinking seems more sensible than pontificating on the possibility 'loose lips.'

To each their own.

The argument she and @ChicagoBlue make both hinge on common sense, if you understand how the process of opinions are drafted, which I do have some sense of (initial opinions are nearly always modified, and often watered down -- read The Brethren or The Nine).

As I said -- I don't know, but even though you know as much as I do, you've already made your prediction. So you know nothing -- same as me -- but you have made your call, and I haven't. Right -- you have no bias, you're all common sense.

 

[Dax777]

The argument she and @ChicagoBlue make both hinge on common sense, if you understand how the process of opinions are drafted, which I do have some sense of (initial opinions are nearly always modified, and often watered down -- read The Brethren or The Nine).

As I said -- I don't know, but even though you know as much as I do, you've already made your prediction. So you know nothing -- same as me -- but you have made your call, and I haven't. Right -- you have no bias, you're all common sense.

What call did I make? I'm agreeing we all don't know. And Yes it could have been anyone for any reason. Including someone being blackmailed.

I'm just saying, why are people suggesting it is more likely to be a less plausible option?

 

[domalino]

There were feutus of 7 months or later found in disposed bags.
The police decided not to investigate. But rather prosecute the woman who found the fetuses and alerted the police.

But, sure let's just pretend we can't think.

But I said already that pregnancies are terminated that late to save the mothers life.

You are the one who pretended people are having elective abortions at 7 months which is complete bullshit.

And you’re pretending to be surprised that the woman with dozens of stolen foetus remains got arrested!

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

What call did I make? I'm agreeing we all don't know. And Yes it could have been anyone for any reason. Including someone being blackmailed.

I'm just saying, why are people suggesting it is more likely to be a less plausible option?

This you?

The leaker is highly unlikely with the conservatives. Loose lips or not. And the implications that Ginny will have a copy is silly at best. Talk less leaking it. It's either a Justice ( most likely one of the 3ob the left) or a clerk or lowly worker with a pro abortion bent.

It was most likely leaked by someone who was against the proposition and wanted as much dust kicking about it to commence . . .

. . . It's most likely NOT Thomas. He is the least likely of all the Justices

And then you'll come in with "but, but, but, but . . . I used the word 'likely'; that's not a prediction."

Well, I didn't use that word. All I suggested was that the argument that it came from a justice who wanted to cement that first draft is a compelling one, a common sense one too, and contradicts yours.

And you know exactly as much as I do -- nothing.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Remind what kind of senate Obama had in his first term again??

Quandary indeed.

Utter bollocks.

He had a Democratic Senate for 44 days, because of Kennedy, so I raise your “utter bollocks” with ObamaCare, and even that took political machinations that made it almost impossible.

You, like many others, always only seem to understand a fraction of the story and forget the President has almost zero legislative power.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Abortions do not stop at 6 weeks. They go on up to partial birth.


Why are we pretending zygotes are the only claims at issue here?

We are not. Roe was a standard and it is that standard that has, in a patently transparent manner, been chipped away at to get the issue before the SCOTUS.

You fail to notice that as the standard has been pulled closer and closer to conception, many of the arguments against abortion become even more fallacious, because they could have ALWAYS taken place under the “old standard.”

It is precisely BECAUSE the old standard was being “reeled in” that SCOTUS got this case and the RWNJs and religious zealots got their day in front of their 6-3 court.

At least maintain a facade of intellectual honesty, even if it is thin and relatively transparent.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

What call did I make? I'm agreeing we all don't know. And Yes it could have been anyone for any reason. Including someone being blackmailed.

I'm just saying, why are people suggesting it is more likely to be a less plausible option?

Could you show us those posts, please…

The one where PEOPLE SUGGEST it is MORE LIKELY to be a less plausible option.

Thanks. Words matter.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

IT'S A CULT!!!

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

 

[Dax777]

But I said already that pregnancies are terminated that late to save the mothers life.

You are the one who pretended people are having elective abortions at 7 months which is complete bullshit.

This is disingenuous. You pretended the argument was about Zygotes. I simply pointed out that abortions don't stop at Zygotes. And the laws as written make elective late abortions not only possible but likely.

I'm simply pointing out what the facts and arguments are. Not passing an opinion.

And you’re pretending to be surprised that the woman with dozens of stolen foetus remains got arrested!

Stolen? She took it from a dumpster dump! Goodness me!

Yes, when pregnancies are terminated to save the mother's life Dr tend to have notes that documents this. It would be easy to verify. But no one wants to do a cursory check. I wonder why.