US Politics Thread

[55yr old teenager]

I was just aware that I’d asked why twice without further reference.

If the woman in the predicament has a moral dilemma, then that is hers to solve with her family/doctor/therapist/friends/herself.

This ruling won’t ban abortions, it will create illegal ones that may or may not be medically safe. That’s just not right in this day and age.

In my opinion, of course.

Sorry for not answering your why question. I misunderstood you. I agree with you, it absolutely is and always should be the womans choice. I totally disagree with the overturning of Roe v Wade. Unfortunately as you say it will just increase the number of illegal abortions and also cause injury and death in some cases to the woman having the abortion. It will go back to being done in people's houses in a cloak and dagger fashion by people who charge a lot of money and who are not qualified. Its a sad backward step in women's reproductive health.

 

[domalino]

Simple solution is for you to not have an abortion then. Job done.

No one actually uses abortions (a very traumatic, expensive, uncomfortable and/or painful procedure/experience) as contraception so there doesn’t really need to be a solution to this entirely fictitious problem.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

No one is against a woman's choice to have or not have sex, to use condoms, to use IUDs, to demand the men they sleep with snip it or get none, or perhaps time their sexual intercourse to the 20 or so days of the month where it's almost impossible for women to get pregnant.

Uh, maybe you should actually READ Thomas’s concurrence.

 

[55yr old teenager]

Simple solution is for you to not have an abortion then. Job done.

Doubt i would need one anymore being post menopausal and 60 years old!!!!!

 

[55yr old teenager]

No one actually uses abortions (a very traumatic, expensive, uncomfortable and/or painful procedure/experience) as contraception so there doesn’t really need to be a solution to this entirely fictitious problem.

Sorry to disagree with you, but I have known a few friends who have had repeated abortions. Have also nursed people who were admitted to have their 3rd or 4th abortion. Trust me it happens.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Sorry to disagree with you, but I have known a few friends who have had repeated abortions. Have also nursed people who were admitted to have ther 3rd or 4th abortion. Trust me it happens.

And you think that is a lifestyle choice, failed contraception or the bloke lying that got them to that point?

 

[SWP's back]

Sorry to disagree with you, but I have known a few friends who have had repeated abortions. Have also nursed people who were admitted to have their 3rd or 4th abortion. Trust me it happens.

I’m going to assume these women on their 3rd or 4th abortions had probably had sex more times than that?

 

[Bigga]

Perhaps.

You required of women a level of self responsibility. I.e. You argued that women having sex should take responsibility for their actions, seeing as their are 20 different ways to prevent pregnancy under conditions of consent.

Should the same 'take responsibility' not apply to black people when it comes to interactions with cops?

You cant be all for taking responsibility when it comes to women and sex, but not taking responsibility when it comes to police interaction. Seeing as over 95% of police interaction with blacks people that turned deadly almost always included a failure to comply with directives from the law enforcement officer.

You can't ask women to take responsibility on one issue, while requiring no such from black men.

I mean you can do whatever you want, but that struck me as odd!



Fair enough. I generally feel the same way about your views on most issues.

You're conflating issues to a point where they make no sense for correlation.

But that's par for the course for you.

I won't derail this thread further. You can engage your points better explained in 'Reality Bytes'.

I'll give you time to think of a better argument...

 

[55yr old teenager]

And you think that is a lifestyle choice, failed contraception or the bloke lying that got them to that point?

Really don't know Alan, and I never asked. I think I have .ade my views on the subject pretty clear.

 

[Dax777]

You hide behind the legal process and don‘t give a fuck about the health of women.

That's just you trying to hold a moral high ground. In a sense you are using the very same tactics the religious types use. There are no moral high grounds. As all sides believe they Stand on the very same moral high ground.

One espousing the right of a woman to abort a growing Pregnancy. The other on the right of life to continue, even if true that it begun and still is in a dependent state


The legal process on the other hand IS a legitimate point of contention. Unfortunately, it's one in which those who agree with you stand on shakier grounds.

Tyranny in the name of good