US Politics Thread

Really don't know Alan, and I never asked. I think I have .ade my views on the subject pretty clear.
It’s such an emotive subject and it probably is a rollercoaster of emotions for every woman who has to undertake the procedure.

Even if it was a woman being totally naïve, should she be refused an abortion because it’s her 4th time?

We both know there has to be a line drawn somewhere on most things, legally, but it just seems folly to me to say it can’t be done because the woman has reached her personal limit.
 
That's just you trying to hold a moral high ground. In a sense you are using the very same tactics the religious types use. There are no moral high grounds. As all sides believe they Stand on the very same moral high ground.

One espousing the right of a woman to abort a growing Pregnancy. The other on the right of life to continue, even if true that it begun and still is in a dependent state


The legal process on the other hand IS a legitimate point of contention. Unfortunately, it's one in which those who agree with you stand on shakier grounds.

Tyranny in the name of good
But it isn’t. You’re taking away a right that a woman should have.

I’m not the one trying to restrict a woman’s right.

All you are doing is sending abortions underground and putting women’s lives at risk unnecessarily.

Oh and missing out on the cagillion dollars you could charge for the procedure.

I’ll repeat that no other civilised country would or could entertain this law change.

Yet, you’re happy to go along with it.
 
They wanna protect the child in the uterus but not in the schools ..... ban guns as children have a right to go to school and not have to think is our school next.
This would be true if there were groups of people protesting for the right to be able to kill children in school.

It's illegal to kill children in school. You know that, right?
 
I have. I'm sure you understand how concurring opinions work.
Oh. So then you know you’re quite wrong about what “no one is saying”.

Once again, not even a peep about stare decisis. Not even troubled, are you?

Better that Thomas get his “43 years of revenge on the liberals”, as he (allegedly) said in 1993.
 
It’s not an outside Roe v Wade issue. But if you only use USA you get a false picture.

It is like using only strict v Lax gun states to discuss correlation between guns and violence, when using countries with no guns makes the point more clearly.

Republicans cut funding for contraceptive treatment in a country with expensive private medicine and abortions go up.

Abortion should be on demand rather than having to jump through unnecessary hoops (e. g. Listening to heartbeat) to satisfy the religious right.

Let me extrapolate the argument you make; if a woman can't be arsed forming a relationship with a man, it's okay to fuck and abort.

Playing Devil's Advocate, I'd suggest the law should inspire less wanton action without care.

Have you heard the saying 'a woman controls sex'? It's entirely up to her who she lets in. Potentially another form of contraceptive if she chose.
 
But it isn’t. You’re taking away a right that a woman should have.

I’m not the one trying to restrict a woman’s right.
Ok. Neither of us is doing anything. But I get your point. You think I agree with those who think abortions should be illegal.

All you are doing is sending abortions underground and putting women’s lives at risk unnecessarily.
Do you think 1st world nations should launch a military attack on third world nations who restrict women's right to abortions? If not. Why not?

Oh and missing out on the cagillion dollars you could charge for the procedure.
Yeah, another reason those who are anti-abortion believe they own the moral high-ground. As a lot of this is simply about money for some.

I’ll repeat that no other civilised country would or could entertain this law change.

Yet, you’re happy to go along with it.
@FogBlueInSanFran will have you know that it is NOT a law change. I'm inclined to agree with him. He is the smartest. :)
 
Ok. Neither of us is doing anything. But I get your point. You think I agree with those who think abortions should be illegal.


Do you think 1st world nations should launch a military attack on third world nations who restrict women's right to abortions? If not. Why not?


Yeah, another reason those who are anti-abortion believe they own the moral high-ground. As a lot of this is simply about money for some.


@FogBlueInSanFran will have you know that it is NOT a law change. I'm inclined to agree with him. He is the smartest. :)
No, you’re focussing on the legalities, rather than the infringement on womens’ rights.
 
Sorry to disagree with you, but I have known a few friends who have had repeated abortions. Have also nursed people who were admitted to have their 3rd or 4th abortion. Trust me it happens.

Apparently, you're not allowed to disagree with his point as a woman, because it's his point.

Because you buck the trend, you're not allowed to have this point of view that dents his point...
 

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