US Politics Thread

[gordondaviesmoustache]

No. Tax cuts for him I presume (he’s quite well off). He’s absolutely convinced there’s something to the Hunter Biden laptop story. He hates Biden, hates Newsom, hates H Clinton. It just sounds like he cannot bring himself to vote for a Democrat — any Democrat. And it’s not like he doesn’t get who and what Trump is. He simply doesn’t believe Trump is an existential threat and as long as he isn’t, in his mind, Biden or effectively any Democrat is worse than Trump or any Republican.

This obsession with Hunter Biden is just fucking weird.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I think the term is 'owned'.

 

[roman totale]

I think the term is 'owned'.View attachment 102737

She knows exactly what she’s doing. What she really wants to say is “a colored” and “a lesbian”, but she has to use a simpleton’s code instead.

 

[KPXBLN]

No. Tax cuts for him I presume (he’s quite well off). He’s absolutely convinced there’s something to the Hunter Biden laptop story. He hates Biden, hates Newsom, hates H Clinton. It just sounds like he cannot bring himself to vote for a Democrat — any Democrat. And it’s not like he doesn’t get who and what Trump is. He simply doesn’t believe Trump is an existential threat and as long as he isn’t, in his mind, Biden or effectively any Democrat is worse than Trump or any Republican. In all other respects he’s a pragmatist, but what’s especially strange is he will literally unfriend liars and cheaters — he becomes almost imperiously indignant about their behavio(u)r when it impacts him. This is a very good friend and neighbo(u)r which is what makes me so sad.

That is sad as you say. (I appreciate the dual spelling by the way - a nice touch.)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

That is sad as you say. (I appreciate the dual spelling by the way - a nice touch.)

Much respect for the dual spelling.

 

[idahoblues]

No. Tax cuts for him I presume (he’s quite well off). He’s absolutely convinced there’s something to the Hunter Biden laptop story. He hates Biden, hates Newsom, hates H Clinton. It just sounds like he cannot bring himself to vote for a Democrat — any Democrat. And it’s not like he doesn’t get who and what Trump is. He simply doesn’t believe Trump is an existential threat and as long as he isn’t, in his mind, Biden or effectively any Democrat is worse than Trump or any Republican. In all other respects he’s a pragmatist, but what’s especially strange is he will literally unfriend liars and cheaters — he becomes almost imperiously indignant about their behavio(u)r when it impacts him. This is a very good friend and neighbo(u)r which is what makes me so sad.

A large proportion of my Mexican friends are very pro Trump, they don’t want anything that stops them making a living. They’re also very harsh on other Mexicans who aren’t as fortunate as them, very fond of buying exotic vehicles as a Statement of how well they’ve done.

 

[roman totale]

A large proportion of my Mexican friends are very pro Trump, they don’t want anything that stops them making a living. They’re also very harsh on other Mexicans who aren’t as fortunate as them, very fond of buying exotic vehicles as a Statement of how well they’ve done.

I’ve got mine/ I’m alright Jack - is culture-agnostic and the very basis of trumpism.

 

[idahoblues]

I’ve got mine/ I’m alright Jack - is culture-agnostic and the very basis of trumpism.

Yup

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

That is sad as you say. (I appreciate the dual spelling by the way - a nice touch.)

I try — sometimes I miss them though. I never remember to spell check as cheque and I still think the English are wrong to say “maths”. :)

 

[TinFoilHat]

A large proportion of my Mexican friends are very pro Trump, they don’t want anything that stops them making a living. They’re also very harsh on other Mexicans who aren’t as fortunate as them, very fond of buying exotic vehicles as a Statement of how well they’ve done.

I get the same impression from the Cuban migrants in Florida after just watching a news report about them.

Very pro republican. One was glad they escaped Cuba but didn't want anyone else doing so.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I get the same impression from the Cuban migrants in Florida after just watching a news report about them.

Very pro republican. One was glad they escaped Cuba but didn't want anyone else doing so.

Immigrants who do ok for themselves tend to very quickly become right wing once they’ve established themselves. It isn’t unique to the US.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

General question:

What are people’s thoughts on the likelihood of Biden not running in November and what are the metrics around any associated timings? At what point would he be likely, or moreover be required to declare this.

I don’t mind him, although he’s not been robust enough with Israel imo, but with his age in particular I think he’s a liability - and like any sane person my priority (for the UK and the world) is that Trump is not elected back to office.

What are people’s thoughts on this?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

General question:

What are people’s thoughts on the likelihood of Biden not running in November and what are the metrics around any associated timings? At what point would he be likely, or moreover be required to declare this.

I don’t mind him, although he’s not been robust enough with Israel imo, but with his age in particular I think he’s a liability - and like any sane person my priority (for the UK and the world) is that Trump is not elected back to office.

What are people’s thoughts on this?

Any challenge would have had to have started by now.

One problem is that if JB wanted to step aside then his VP would be the logical alternative. But Harris is not exactly electoral dynamite. So who?

Bottom line is I think JB will be the pick. Its too late unless there is some extraordinary dealings behind the scenes.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Any challenge would have had to have started by now.

One problem is that if JB wanted to step aside then his VP would be the logical alternative. But Harris is not exactly electoral dynamite. So who?

Bottom line is I think JB will be the pick. It’s too late unless there is some extraordinary dealings behind the scenes.

Shame as I think that makes Trump’s success far more likely, as hatred/lack of confidence of Biden in some quarters appears to…errr… trump uneasiness about Trump.

I agree, Harris is an even bigger liability than Biden.

From what I’ve seen I’ve been impressed with Newsome, but that’s only a ex tempore, superficial view.

Could he stand as someone’s VP? Not sure where that sits with the 22nd Amendment as he’s already held that office twice.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Shame as I think that makes Trump’s success far more likely, as hatred/lack of confidence of Biden in some quarters appears to…errr… trump uneasiness about Trump.

I agree, Harris is an even bigger liability than Biden.

From what I’ve seen I’ve been impressed with Newsome, but that’s only a ex tempore, superficial view.

Could he stand as someone’s VP? Not sure where that sits with the 22nd Amendment as he’s already held that office twice.

If you go back to the contest that JB won his main challengers all had significant issues. Pete would be great as an example but America is not voting in a gay president anytime soon.

The dems need a new jfk but whenever it comes to it they just don't seem to have big hitters who would have universal appeal.

Newsome is possibly the best they have but coming from Cali and the issues that state has would give the gop some ammo. Cali is the rights idea of a failed state.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Newsome is possibly the best they have but coming from Cali and the issues that state has would give the gop some ammo. Cali is the rights idea of a failed state.

If Trump wins, I fear the US will become a failed state.

 

[halfcenturyup]

That is sad as you say. (I appreciate the dual spelling by the way - a nice touch.)

You mean to(u)ch.

 

[SWP's back]

I try — sometimes I miss them though. I never remember to spell check as cheque and I still think the English are wrong to say “maths”. :)

I was always very good at mathematic.

 

[TonyM]

It's crazy to think that more decent Dem candidates weren't developed over the past 10 years.

Someone ideally from Massachusetts, Conecticut, Rhode Island, New York or Philidelphia, i.e. where people are mostly "normal".

 

[SWP's back]

but that’s only a ex tempore, superficial view.

I love it when you talk dirty.