US Politics Thread

[The Future’s Blue!]

$4.1m in damages for inforwars.

The parents lawyer says they're hoping for 10-15x as much in punitive damages.

There are 19 other sets of parents.

I’m still astonished on how he portrayed this horrific incident. It just shows how disinformation can have an effect on those that choose not to find the truth, even if it is right there before your eyes. Then to double down just to ensure that your ‘contributors’ keep paying!

His appalling behaviour deserves severe sanctions and should not only see him on his arse, it should also see him in prison taking it up the proverbial.

And, hopefully, his telephone log brings further consequence, not only for him, but also for the fuckers who wanted to push his dreadful message.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Justice is served - the first time and it will be repeated as the law suits come in - Jones is about to become dust and like most of his ilk he will find how few real friends he has in this workld.

Alex Jones must pay at least $4.1 million to parents of a Sandy Hook victim in defamation case

Scarlett Lewis and Neil Heslin, whose son Jesse died in the 2012 attack, had sought damages for defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[bluethrunthru]

PMSL

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Incidentally, I think you need to come off your assumption that Joe Biden is running for President in 2024. The fretting over X vs. Biden is a waste of time until you know if he's running or not. I think it's 50/50, at best.

Huh? Who's "fretting"?

IMO Biden is probably the best candidate that Democrats could possibly run in 2024. Granted he might not run. If one were to "fret" it would be about the possibility that Harris becomes the Democratic nominee.

The problem that Democrats face in 2022 and probably in 2024 is that the economy is frankly shit. Although not the fault of Democratic policy, if the economy doesn't substantially improve, it's unlikely that Democrats will win the presidency in 2024 - Kansas abortion result not withstanding.

Yes, the economy might improve. Yes the Russian invasion of Ukraine might come to an end. Yes supply chain issues probably resolve although new COVID variants might delay this - but on balance - 2024 looks good for Republicans.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Huh? Who's "fretting"?

IMO Biden is probably the best candidate that Democrats could possibly run in 2024. Granted he might not run. If one were to "fret" it would be about the possibility that Harris becomes the Democratic nominee.

The problem that Democrats face in 2022 and probably in 2024 is that the economy is frankly shit. Although not a fault of Democratic policy, if the economy doesn't substantially improve, it's unlikely that Democrats will win the presidency in 2024 - Kansas abortion result not withstanding.

Yes, the economy might improve. Yes the Russian invasion of Ukraine might come to an end. Yes supply chain issues probably resolve although new COVID variants might delay this - but on balance - 2024 looks good for Republicans.

Unless you think the current recession (which is an odd one given the atypical employment lag so far — a jobful recession vs a jobless recovery, though in a half hour maybe the data starts showing a change) is turning into a 10 quarter one, I think you will end up being wrong about 2024’s economy.

When I say “fretting”, this is what I mean. It’s not logical to conclude the 24 economy will look much like 22. Certainly there isn’t much historical precedent for such a fear, unless you think this is the early 80s, and I doubt rates are going to double digits. We’ve been in a post-war boom (the war being against COVID) followed by the inevitable post-war inflationary period, followed by a post-post-war downturn.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Unless you think the current recession (which is an odd one given the atypical employment lag so far — a jobful recession vs a jobless recovery, though in a half hour maybe the data starts showing a change) is turning into a 10 quarter one, I think you will end up being wrong about 2024’s economy.

When I say “fretting”, this is what I mean. It’s not logical to conclude the 24 economy will look much like 22. We’ve been in a post-war boom (the war being against COVID) followed by the inevitable post-war inflationary period, followed by a post-post-war downturn.

>> When I say “fretting”, this is what I mean. It’s not logical to conclude the 24 economy will look much like 22. We’ve been in a post-war boom (the war being against COVID) followed by the inevitable post-war inflationary period, followed by a post-post-war downturn.
Huh?

The primary reason that I think that the economy will continue to drag is that Russia's invasion of Ukraine shows no sign of resolving. Is this view "irrational" - hand wringing over nothing - no basis at all - silly?
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Here's an "as an aside" for you FogBlue....

You seem altogether far too optimistic in your outlook. You have a tendency to project what you want to happen, dubiously so in my opinion, on matters actually at hand.

So now, although we're basically rooting for identical outcomes, you've decided to label my opinions with derogatory, dismissive rhetoric.
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Get real. Biden might not run - but he's the candidate that bettors think will run. And - as explained previously - if he doesn't run - I think that not having Biden at the front of the ticket is worse for Democrats.
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This post of mine will no doubt launch some sort of rhetorical war - because I largely disagree with your projections - on the basis of facts at hand, presently. No one can read the future - so we're left dealing in likelihoods. And my "likelihoods" are apparently nothing more than "fretting."
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So I'll forestall the war - you're on ignore for the time being.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

>> When I say “fretting”, this is what I mean. It’s not logical to conclude the 24 economy will look much like 22. We’ve been in a post-war boom (the war being against COVID) followed by the inevitable post-war inflationary period, followed by a post-post-war downturn.
Huh?

The primary reason that I think that the economy will continue to drag is that the war against Ukraine shows no sign of resolving. Is this view "irrational" - hand wringing over nothing - no basis at all - silly?
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Here's an "as an aside" for you FogBlue....

You seem altogether far too optimistic in your outlook. You have a tendency to project what you want to happen, dubiously so in my opinion, on matters actually at hand.

So now, although we're basically rooting for identical outcomes, you've decided to label my opinions with derogatory, dismissive rhetoric.
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Get real. Biden might not run - but he's the candidate that bettors think will run. And even - as explained previously - if he doesn't run - I think that not having Biden at the front of the ticket is worse for worse for Democrats.
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This post of mine will no doubt launch some sort of rhetorical war - because I largely disagree with your projections - on the basis of facts at hand, presently. No one can read the future - so we're left dealing in likelihoods. And my "likelihoods" are apparently nothing more that "fretting."
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So I'll forestall the war - you're on ignore for the time being.

I just think you worry too much. There are real reasons for worry (installation of MAGA Secretaries of State in some places), and then other reasons that make less sense to me (the recession will still be ongoing in 2024, cuz of Ukraine). I don't disagree with you politically -- I can just see the edges fraying around the MAGA movement (finally) and the Trump cult, which is a positive, even if MAGA 2.0 (DeSantis) is the next battle.

 

[Mike D]

As it edges closer to Trump being indited his lawyers are now beginning to talk, its starting to look like Watergate all over again. How long before we get the news Trump isn't running so he can avoid orange jumpsuit time.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

As it edges closer to Trump being indited his lawyers are now beginning to talk, its starting to look like Watergate all over again. How long before we get the news Trump isn't running so he can avoid orange jumpsuit time.

The problem always with Trump and the US justice system is that with enough money you can delay and bog down the system. The fact it has taken this long to even get close to an indictment does not boed well for him being locked up. He will be fighting in courts until he dies. I doubt he will eve see a prison cell though.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

The problem always with Trump and the US justice system is that with enough money you can delay and bog down the system. The fact it has taken this long to even get close to an indictment does not boed well for him being locked up. He will be fighting in courts until he dies. I doubt he will eve see a prison cell though.

Not a chance he will go down, he’ll just wapp-out his presidential pardon that he signed himself, a bit like the child-like teachers note that one tried to get away with when young.