US Politics Thread

I did see something that made me laugh earlier - somebody asked with evidence being produced of Trump aides ripping up documents and flushing them down the bog - why do that when they are in a building ( the White House ) which has 27 fireplaces lol
 
I did see something that made me laugh earlier - somebody asked with evidence being produced of Trump aides ripping up documents and flushing them down the bog - why do that when they are in a building ( the White House ) which has 27 fireplaces lol

Do they still use them?

Surely it's a security risk from naked flames or an entrance vulnerable to a drone bomb?
 
Yes I get that. They are saying what the base want to hear to keep the gravy chain going. Apart from Cheney and Kinzinger I have heard no ranking or high ranking GOP member condem the dangerous rhetoric that is flying about. Not least the threats to FBI and their families.
It’s all fun and games, in a country where the freedom to say almost anything is a foundational principle, UNTIL someone gets hurt!

The level of armament within the Police community is eye-watering in 2022, with the National Guard being a significant arm of the US military to bear. Bubba might have a few AR-15s, but when push comes to shove he will die with it in his hands, if he so chooses.

Waco & Ruby Ridge made it clear that the authorities understand force when the population is armed and attempting to be dangerous.

The ONLY potential “worst case scenario” I can see is if there was a “secret Trump military” INSIDE the US military, with access to WMD. Thankfully, I think most in the military see him for what he really is…a bragging con man who will do, and say, ANYTHING for self-aggrandizement and to line his own pockets!
 
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Tonight, when Liz Cheney loses her primary, she supposed to be giving a speech in which she announces she is now going to devote her full-time efforts to recapturing the nation from Trumpism, and ask for like-minded GOPers, Democrats and independents to join her.

It will be interesting. It could be a dud, and she neutralized, but somehow I think (and hope) it will be more akin to an Obi-Wan Kenobi moment: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Can't stand her politics, but she's shown a lot of guts (albeit the guts we would have expected any moral, thinking person to show).
 
Tonight, when Liz Cheney loses her primary, she supposed to be giving a speech in which she announces she is now going to devote her full-time efforts to recapturing the nation from Trumpism, and ask for like-minded GOPers, Democrats and independents to join her.

It will be interesting. It could be a dud, and she neutralized, but somehow I think (and hope) it will be more akin to an Obi-Wan Kenobi moment: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Can't stand her politics, but she's shown a lot of guts (albeit the guts we would have expected any moral, thinking person to show).
Her record on voting shows she was pretty much in lock step with the Don, but she seems to have found her breaking point with what happened on Jan 6.

I'm not sure there is anything she can say at this point that will convince the cult to change their opinion though.
 
Tonight, when Liz Cheney loses her primary, she supposed to be giving a speech in which she announces she is now going to devote her full-time efforts to recapturing the nation from Trumpism, and ask for like-minded GOPers, Democrats and independents to join her.

It will be interesting. It could be a dud, and she neutralized, but somehow I think (and hope) it will be more akin to an Obi-Wan Kenobi moment: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Can't stand her politics, but she's shown a lot of guts (albeit the guts we would have expected any moral, thinking person to show).
There’s a thought she will run against the Orange Jumpsuit in 2024, just so she can detail his destruction and promote ACTUAL conservative principles.

The field will be heavily whittled down if the OJ runs, but it would be good to see De Santis & Cheney beating him up from both sides on stage for a few debates!

The bigger issue for me is who runs against Biden, if he chooses to run again! Fingers crossed he doesn’t, and Buttigieg, Newsom and the required female(s) run to inject some progressive youth into the race.

Buttigieg versus De Santis would be interesting, as would Newsom vs De Santis…a California vs Florida Governors battle!
 
There’s a thought she will run against the Orange Jumpsuit in 2024, just so she can detail his destruction and promote ACTUAL conservative principles.

The field will be heavily whittled down if the OJ runs, but it would be good to see De Santis & Cheney beating him up from both sides on stage for a few debates!

The bigger issue for me is who runs against Biden, if he chooses to run again! Fingers crossed he doesn’t, and Buttigieg, Newsom and the required female(s) run to inject some progressive youth into the race.

Buttigieg versus De Santis would be interesting, as would Newsom vs De Santis…a California vs Florida Governors battle!
Butigieg would be a great shout. He's articulate, calm, well informed and compassionate and seems to have a firm grasp on reality; all fine attributes for any aspiring presidential candidate. However, the sad fact of the matter is that I'm not quite sure the USA is ready to elect an openly gay president considering the amount of people who were more than a bit tentative about the idea of electing a woman POTUS in 2016.
 
Butigieg would be a great shout. He's articulate, calm, well informed and compassionate and seems to have a firm grasp on reality; all fine attributes for any aspiring presidential candidate. However, the sad fact of the matter is that I'm not quite sure the USA is ready to elect an openly gay president considering the amount of people who were more than a bit tentative about the idea of electing a woman POTUS in 2016.

Not even one with several combat deployments under his belt?
 

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