US Politics Thread

[bluethrunthru]

Will Trump end up dead or go full Weinstein if he's finally arrested for something?

I am guessing that the plan is to keep triggering his anger as at some stage an ageing man who lives on a diet of cheese burgers and bile will just go away............

 

[west didsblue]

I’m on record as full Weinstein.

He’s too vain to resort to using a Zimmer frame and making himself look haggard.

 

[Bigga]

No one cares because the US has been doing this for decades.

You can search and find Biden, Trump, Obama & Bush all coming out "too strongly" in defence of Taiwan and then the official White House spokesman rowing it back a bit.

It's called strategic ambiguity, and stems from the belief that the 1996 missile crisis was caused by Clinton being too passive towards China.

So, what happens if a Chinese leader decides to call the US' bluff?

Let's just say Russia decides to do the same, the Saudis decide to up their own ante and Iran says fuck it to the 'deal' that was made.

All within the realms of possibility with the US over flexing.

What happens? It's only courtesy that holds off action, right now, but the next leaders might think fuck that.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

He’s too vain to resort to using a Zimmer frame and making himself look haggard.

Weinstein might be even more vain.

Desperate times, desperate measures, etc.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

A good summary of the Oath Keepers trial. This is hugely significant for Trump. If they are found guilty then that confirms there was a criminal attempt to stop the election process. From there its very easy to then loop Trump in as being a leader. If they get off its much harder.

The evidence is solid but it's a huge charge, imagine being on the jury.

 

[laserblue]

A good summary of the Oath Keepers trial. This is hugely significant for Trump. If they are found guilty then that confirms there was a criminal attempt to stop the election process. From there its very easy to then loop Trump in as being a leader. If they get off its much harder.

The evidence is solid but it's a huge charge, imagine being on the jury.

It should help the prosecution as 3 of Rhodes's fellow Oath Keepers already pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy and have been co-operating with the authorities.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Has Donald turned up at Mar-a-Lago throwing bog rolls at people yet?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

It should help the prosecution as 3 of Rhodes's fellow Oath Keepers already pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy and have been co-operating with the authorities.

Yes - its a question now of going up the chain. Why the evidence hear will be so interesting. The phone logs, whats app groups etc. Not sure how they deal with other charicters coming in to the frame (do they redact the names?). Roger Stone is clearly involved, very close to these thugs, yet not in court here. And then who else in congress and on the white house staff will get dragged in.

 

[BobKowalski]

So, what happens if a Chinese leader decides to call the US' bluff?

Let's just say Russia decides to do the same, the Saudis decide to up their own ante and Iran says fuck it to the 'deal' that was made.

All within the realms of possibility with the US over flexing.

What happens? It's only courtesy that holds off action, right now, but the next leaders might think fuck that.

By bluff, do you mean invade Taiwan? The Chinese don’t have the military capability to undergo an amphibious assault on Taiwan. Similar, to Russia’s experience in Ukraine, it is better by far to threaten and posture to gain leverage than actually do it.

Bit like Brexit. Threaten to leave and you get concessions. Actually leave and it’s like ‘yeah, whatever, dude’.

 

[Bigga]

By bluff, do you mean invade Taiwan? The Chinese don’t have the military capability to undergo an amphibious assault on Taiwan. Similar, to Russia’s experience in Ukraine, it is better by far to threaten and posture to gain leverage than actually do it.

Bit like Brexit. Threaten to leave and you get concessions. Actually leave and it’s like ‘yeah, whatever, dude’.

No, I get that and all you say is true, but it just takes the game of brinkmanship to make a misstep and it all comes tumbling down. I was reminded today of an episode of 'The Colbert Report' where a guest was explaining US strategy (Ukraine, in this case) and the way they play with Putin.

I recall actually watching the ep on TV and may have it in one of my Hard Drives. If you'll actually watch it, I'll post the clip via Rogan, who doesn't say too much. It's, actually, eye-opening the plan the US had all those years ago to bear fruition now. FF to the clip: