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"Our thoughts and prayers are with the family, relatives and victims of this terrible tragedy. This is not the time for politics - rather it is a time for reflection and healing." (This is a hypothetical statement in keeping with the bullshit that the NRA posts after every such tragedy.)

And so goes the right-wing sentiment. This and numerous other such tragedies will have zero effect on the Republican stance on gun control - which is this: zero gun ownership is a God-given, absolute right guaranteed by the US Constitution and any move by the socialist Democrats to the contrary is an offense against God and the rights of mankind. Or some such.

The only way this changes is if Democrats take majority control both the House and the Senate with a Democratic President; that the filibuster rule is overturned; and that the Supreme Court is somehow thwarted - as the uber conservative majority in SCOTUS will obviously rule that any sort of gun control legislation is unconstitutional.

TL/DR - same ole, same ole. Gun violence in the USA is going to continue for decades.
 
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The tragic thing about these 1950's questions is that it's often written off as Trump bigots pining after life before gender equality and the voting rights act and when 99% of the country were christians, but the 1950's was so great (for straight white christian men & their families) becuase 1915-1945 completely reset wealth inequality across the western world, and it stayed low until the 80's

So many of our countries' shared problems can be traced directly back to Reagan and Thatcher, yet people simply will not see what decades of fallout has laid bare.

Instead literally trillions of dollars have been spent to convince people that every other change in the past 50 years is the reason they're doing worse than their parents.

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domalino said:
The tragic thing about these 1950's questions is that it's often written off as Trump bigots pining after life before gender equality and the voting rights act and when 99% of the country were christians, but the 1950's was so great (for straight white christian men & their families) becuase 1915-1945 completely reset wealth inequality across the western world, and it stayed low until the 80's

So many of our countries' shared problems can be traced directly back to Reagan and Thatcher, yet people simply will not see what decades of fallout has laid bare.

Instead literally trillions of dollars have been spent to convince people that every other change in the past 50 years is the reason they're doing worse than their parents.

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I agree with all of it. In my opinion these are the causes. First of, relative to when the GOP has power in the US the Dems tend to offer more material benefit to the people. However, in the US change comes very slow. That’s the way the system works. But as you pointed out, years of “voodoo” economics has caused inequality to spiral out of control much faster than the benefits the system put in place will allow to be fixed.

Just look at the student debt issue in the US caused by the rise of higher education after it was stopped being subsidized during the Reagan years. Decades have gone by and many have died with their student debt only until the recent past for the government to offer the bare minimum of relief for citizens. All that time where millions of lives were destroyed, and this is just one issue.

Sadly, this unresponsiveness of the government all these years has left many people suffering and searching for answers to these complicated questions/problems. For many this makes them susceptible to conspiracies in order to solve these problems and the right wing media has been exploiting this for decades.

I’m sure it this has similarities in the UK as well.
 
Sky News reporting the attacker was demanding to know where Nancy was.

Kinda points to the attacker being a Trump ****.
 
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