US Politics Thread

Bigga said:
Interesting, firstly you haven't posted anywhere that I supported Trump and that I was "alt-right" supporting.

Secondly, I posted that the US were sending arms support to the Neo nazi battalion of the Ukraine, Azov, as they send to the country. Have you disputed that? No, cos you can't, especially as they are being awarded medals as the US battles it's own neo Nazi problems!!

It's incredible, really!

Thirdly, working for Russian TV doesn't indicate their support of policies. Chris Hedges, also worked worked for anti- western TV and came out staunchly against the war in Ukraine, but still managed to speak about the US involvement there, too.

You don't seem to be bothered that Zelenskyy is pushing for NATO and US sending troops to retaliate, whilst I'm wondering why peace talks are not being sought after as prominently as the US claiming they'll support Ukraine 'as long as it takes' which is pretty ambiguous in statement.

As for Covid injections and calling people 'lemmings', people tend to just do what the gov says. Inject yourself with this as we've paid for it'.

'Why?'

'Just do it'.

So, first the claim was when you take it, you won't catch Covid and so I posted a vid saying the vaccine won't stop it. Turns out when a second wave hit, they tried to blame it on the people that hadn't been injected, but that turned out to be not totally true as other waves hit people that had multiple vaccines.

All I ever said was it's your choice to take it.

Me? I got it once during the whole time and that's with me being in one of the higher categories of health risk.

Meanwhile, drug companies fully admit they never tested it on Human beings in trials.

If you're in relative good shape, your own antibodies will fight off disease, but a portion of any wave of illness will take lives.

I like to query things. That you don't, is your own issue.

Let me say though, yet again, because I stated there are other things other than Jan 6th that are important, look at the pile on.

You should take a look at yourselves.
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That's a lot of words when you could have just said "Yes, I did post and defend a load of kremlin propaganda and covid conspiracy theories".
 
domalino said:
Bigga’s the sort who will support anyone he thinks is shaking things up or who gives him an establishment to be mad at.

He was a big Bernie Sanders fan and lurched to Trump after he lost the primary because despite Sanders standing against everything Trunp stands for, Bigga just wanted to upset the establishment.

He’s also incredible susceptible to alt-right libertarian propaganda, he’s been destroyed for being pro-Russia in the Ukraine threads and repeating Kremlin propagandists anti-NATO stuff and he’s also a covid vaccine conspiracist and anti-trans.
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Every study shows that it’s the less intelligent that are easily taken in by conspiracy theories so at this stage, it’s not hugely surprising.
 
I can admit the Dems are just as much washed with corporate donors and influence as the GOP. However, only one side is even pretending to care about working people. What has the GOP offered the working man outside of tax cuts which primarily benefit rich people but they dress it as trickle down economics, and pro cutting of public services and social safety nets that make sure you don’t see even more people on the streets.

I can understand being angry at the establishment but lashing that anger out randomly and letting it manifest in conspiracy theories is hardly going to get the working man material benefits.

It’s not the progressive wing of the government who blocked child tax credits. It’s not the progressive wing of the government that blocked paid sick leave. It’s not the progressive wing of government that is blocking student debt relief. It’s not the progressive wing of the government who doesn’t believe workers deserve a living wage.
 
BayernMan said:
I can admit the Dems are just as much washed with corporate donors and influence as the GOP. However, only one side is even pretending to care about working people. What has the GOP offered the working man outside of tax cuts which primarily benefit rich people but they dress it as trickle down economics, and pro cutting of public services and social safety nets that make sure you don’t see even more people on the streets.

I can understand being angry at the establishment but lashing that anger out randomly and letting it manifest in conspiracy theories is hardly going to get the working man material benefits.

It’s not the progressive wing of the government who blocked child tax credits. It’s not the progressive wing of the government that blocked paid sick leave. It’s not the progressive wing of government that is blocking student debt relief. It’s not the progressive wing of the government who doesn’t believe workers deserve a living wage.
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No, you don't seem to understand that the 'progressive wing' are not anywhere near as 'progressive' as they were when they came into Gov. They signed off on virtually everything the neolibs have put forward.

And explain Biden's stance on the rail strikes, wages, healthcare and the qualification for meagre debt relief. remember, he's not 'progressive'.

Really convenient to ignore these staple subjects to defend the more 'minor' stuff.
 
This is a very good summary of the state of the GOP going into 2023 and the self inflicted problems they have. A huge mess and difficult to see how it plays out.

 
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