What compounds the problem is that if this behaviour is criticised the very people who constantly lie, spread rumours and regurgitate crazy conspiracy theories will throw their first amendment rights straight back at you. They're too stupid to understand that the right to free speech doesn't confer the right to lie.What's most depressing about politics in the USA is the complete disregard for facts and science on the Right.
Currently the Right embraces and/or is composed of lunatics - disregarding facts in favor of palatable mistruths.
I think that may of the deranged would actually be reasonable if presented with facts, absent a lying echo chamber of disinformation.
Misinformation if left unchecked is going to drive countries such as mine into authoritarianism.
I've stated this sentiment above...
The biggest threat to a free Democracy is the "free and fair" spread of lies and disinformation.
If we are to preserve Democracy, regulations need to be put in place to curb the spread of lies and anti-factual opinions.
One might reasonably object to such regulations on many bases - whereas such bases are mostly theoretical. Meanwhile we have the deluded Right seeking to curb non-extant "voter fraud." - for example.
Might such regulations ever pass in the USA - not in the near future for certain.
At the same time, most media outlets are responsive curbing disinformation... but absent laws this isn't enough Those seeking false reinforcement of mistruths need only turn to Fox... and it seems to a near-future Muck-controlled Twitter where anything goes.
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Report and block on Twitter.Oh so now the tweet/ad violates rules about abusive behavio(u)r but it’s in the public’s interest to see it. Meta took it down. Perfect for this **** — gets to claim he’s been censored by Big Tech but still gets to dog whistle his cunts-in-attendance.
Once you figure out how economics work, lickspittle. Any discussion of those topics would be lost on you. We’ll talk again after you tell us whether it was stupidity, naïveté or cowardice which made you vote for Jorgensen.When are we going to discuss inflation and gas prices? Or are those just more "anti-factual opinions" unfit for the political thread?
Asking for a friend :)
High gas prices and inflation all over Europe and Asia. Fuck Joe Biden…. /sarcasmOnce you figure out how economics work, lickspittle. Any discussion of those topics would be lost on you. We’ll talk again after you tell us whether it was stupidity, naïveté or cowardice which made you vote for Jorgensen.
Also stop lying about having friends.
Yes, but why don't YOU intelligent folks go ahead and have it nonetheless. I'd happily sit back and read confusedly. :)Once you figure out how economics work, lickspittle. Any discussion of those topics would be lost on you.
You wanna know why I didn't vote for Biden? Check his approval rating.We’ll talk again after you tell us whether it was stupidity, naïveté or cowardice which made you vote for Jorgensen.
Also stop lying about having friends.
I know you haven't noticed, but MSNBC and CNN are making the same point now too...High gas prices and inflation all over Europe and Asia. Fuck Joe Biden…. /sarcasm
As if that fucking idiot just tried making that point. He’s literally just a repeater of Fox talking points at this stage.
Then change it for the better in your own small way or stay depressed your choice.What's most depressing about politics in the USA is the complete disregard for facts and science on the Right.
Currently the Right embraces and/or is composed of lunatics - disregarding facts in favor of palatable mistruths.
I think that many of the deranged would actually be reasonable if presented with facts, absent a lying echo chamber of disinformation.
Misinformation if left unchecked is going to drive countries such as mine into authoritarianism.
I've stated this sentiment above...
The biggest threat to a free Democracy is the "free and fair" spread of lies and disinformation.
If we are to preserve Democracy, regulations need to be put in place to curb the spread of lies and anti-factual opinions.
One might reasonably object to such regulations on many bases - whereas such bases are mostly theoretical. Meanwhile we have the deluded Right seeking to curb non-extant "voter fraud." - for example.
Might such regulations ever pass in the USA - not in the near future for certain.
At the same time, most media outlets are responsibly curbing disinformation... but absent laws this isn't enough Those seeking false reinforcement of mistruths need only turn to Fox... and it seems to a near-future Muck-controlled Twitter where anything goes.
For starters, I'm not depressed.Then change it for the better in your own small way or stay depressed your choice.
How about you start by not choosing to pick a side.
Misinformation is all around you if you want to look for it from all angles.
My guess having read most of your posts is you choose depression.
One thing for sure you won't alter your state of mind on US Politics posting on this thread but a few likes might make you feel better.
What’s Trump’s current favorability rating? Now do Jorgensen!You wanna know why I didn't vote for Biden? Check his approval rating.
Good you are not depressed about the state of American Politics.For starters, I'm not depressed.
Secondly, this isn't about picking sides. It's about basing decisions on facts, as opposed to lies. Some few conservatives still base their policies on facts - and I actually agree with these sorts of politicians quite often. The radical, almost wholesale conversion of the American Republican Party into conspiracy theorists, demagogues and liars is a relatively recent phenomenon, catalyzed by Trump - though this change would likely have occurred even without him albeit not quite so rapidly.
If you're able to watch PBS, check out Firing Line hosted by Margaret Hoover. She's staunchly Republican and abhors Trump and - though I think there's little scope for this happening - like Adam Kinzinger, she remains in the party, hoping to change it for the better (my take is that this is nearly impossible and that they'd be better served voting for centrist Independents or if they can stomach it, Democrats).
Agree about posting here not changing things, much - but to the extent that we're engaging in conversation, that's at least a start.
As for misinformation, yes it's everywhere. And figuring out how and when to regulate it is going to be exceedingly difficult, but not impossible; indeed, numerous social media platforms have engaged in ad hoc measures along these very lines. But absent actual government regulation, there's every chance that America will slip - at least for a short time - into fascism; and this last remark isn't hyperbole - our former President did nearly everything in his power to overturn a free and fair election because the outcome wasn't to his liking. And the subsequent misinformation he helped spread about voter fraud and a supposedly stolen election have convinced the majority of Republicans to distrust election results and to seek to put into place measures that will ensure an outcome they prefer, whether free and fair or not.
one thing I like about the US is that if you don't believe or in some cases know or just couldn't be fagged voting for a candidate is for you then you don't have to and hopefully are not bullied or shamed into doing so as around 35-50 per cent choose not to every 4 years.What’s Trump’s current favorability rating? Now do Jorgensen!
Nice logic, Foxsucker.
“Oooooh, I can’t vote for any ‘Dem’. Ooooooh, but I can’t vote for Trump either, he’s not nice. Oooooh, what am I to do?” Imagine going to war with you. So yellow Patton would have slapped you.
We know why you want the narrative changed as “conservatives” look more and more insane every day, and those who enabled them (like you) look dumber and more afraid to stand up to them every day. Cowardice is your stock in trade.
Yes, but why don't YOU intelligent folks go ahead and have it nonetheless. I'd happily sit back and read confusedly. :)
Go ahead Foggybrains. Start us off on a relevant trend.
You wanna know why I didn't vote for Biden? Check his approval rating.
I just saw that way before you did and wanted none of it.
Anyway, now can you get to the Inflation, Gas prices, logistics, immigrations and baby formula delays issues?
Chop chop!
I agree. And it’s why Biden’s favorability has dropped. He’s also been less than visible, isn’t especially interesting to listen to, has to come to grips with the after-effects of the post-pandemic liquidity splurge, and has proven himself not an adept consensus builder (albeit it’s not like any President in the current clime would be more effective). Having said that, he’s managed Ukraine as well as can be expected, and I’m not lying awake worried about his personal attempts to subvert democracy, unlike his predecessor and his predecessor’s fawning idiot toadies and those who enable them with their cowardice. And that is all that matters. We aren’t going to care much about inflation (partially enabled by the Fed who kept the spigots open too long, as even they would acknowledge) if free and fair elections die on the vine.one thing I like about the US is that if you don't believe or in some cases know or just couldn't be fagged voting for a candidate is for you then you don't have to and hopefully are not bullied or shamed into doing so as around 35-50 per cent choose not to every 4 years.
In oz its compulsory albeit a small fine if you don't and many deliberately choose to vote donkey.
Rarely does the vote get over 60 per cent of those who can and the jump from 54 in 2016 to 62 in 2024 was largely due to those who were keen to see the back of Trump rather than the prospect of a new dawn under Biden.
I would have to disagree there with you, the reason for the discrepancies are more often that Republicans are traditionally more energized to vote and there is at the very least a passive effort to suppress urban voting one just needs to look at the success Stacey Abrams had in Georgia in 2018 in getting over 800,000 additional votes.....(while still losing)to see that in practice or Texas allowing just a single postal ballot box per county in 2020(a TX county being the size of a small European country!).Political poll results are notoriously misrepresentative of Republican voter opinion nowadays as many Republicans simply refuse to participate in polls
so you are trying to suggest that they can model the likelihood of voter turnout, they can take into account numerous variable..... but they can't model the variable of participating in polling? Things such as the TX ballotbox, how would you model that that legislation was brought in during the voting and they would have nothing to model it onNo, it's not that.
Pollsters are quite good at what they do, given some sort of reasonable data to work with. They can model the likelihood of voter turnout quite easily - it's in the voting records after all. They can and do take into account numerous variables.
The problem with polls seems to be that the a very large proportion of the audience they wish to poll, refuse to participate in polling.