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west didsblue said:
Whilst he raises a lot of valid points about the hypocrisy of the USA and their fucked up system; his appeasement of Russia, his criticism of the west's support for Ukraine and his call for the dismantling of NATO makes him a deluded fuckwit. A tax dodging one at that if you look at his history.
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You obviously watched more of it than me, I didn’t get as far as the points you mention from Russia onwards. Doesn’t take a genius to work out what’s wrong with the US, or the UK if it comes to it, found this fella a bit strident to be honest
 
west didsblue said:
Whilst he raises a lot of valid points about the hypocrisy of the USA and their fucked up system; his appeasement of Russia, his criticism of the west's support for Ukraine and his call for the dismantling of NATO makes him a deluded fuckwit. A tax dodging one at that if you look at his history.
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He's just one enormous facebook meme.
 
journolud said:
You obviously watched more of it than me, I didn’t get as far as the points you mention from Russia onwards. Doesn’t take a genius to work out what’s wrong with the US, or the UK if it comes to it, found this fella a bit strident to be honest
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I googled him to get the bigger picture about him. He’s a dick.
 
The lack of access to social media is very gradually starving him of oxygen. As I said before, he's slowly becoming an ideal, like a Christ-type, as opposed to a man. Plus he lost, he has nothing new to say, and no way to say it. Meantime DeSantis has begun to co-opt the "own the libs" platform. Now if Trump runs, we'll see if this has legs, but the GOP whether new school or old is hoping to see the back of him I'd bet. Early stage close primaries will tell the tale -- as with Biden in 2020, if DeSantis can hang in there early, I'd bet he can get the nomination.

 
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FogBlueInSanFran said:
The lack of access to social media is very gradually starving him of oxygen. As I said before, he's slowly becoming an ideal, like a Christ-type, as opposed to a man. Plus he lost, he has nothing new to say, and no way to say it. Meantime DeSantis has begun to co-opt the "own the libs" platform. Now if Trump runs, we'll see if this has legs, but the GOP whether new school or old is hoping to see the back of him I'd bet. Early stage close primaries will tell the tale -- as with Biden in 2020, if DeSantis can hang in there early, I'd bet he can get the nomination.

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Surely even most right wing loons are bored of that fat orange racist thick c*nt by now
 
Where is the USA headed?

A radical right politician - Trump (or if he's ineligible) DeSantis - is going to be our next President. This is a slam dunk certainty IMO.

The economy is going to persuade undecideds to vote in massive favor of Republicans; Republicans will gain control of the Senate and the House as well. It's inevitable.

It's going to be a decade or two or perhaps more to recover from this shit storm.

Democrats have been thoroughly outplayed; to the extent that a radical party promulgating position after position that is unfavorable to most Americans is on the cusp of ceasing all governmental power (and this will occur without a coup - executive, legislative and judicial are all going to be Republican within the next few years).
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This is my take - I might be (and I hope that I am) wrong. But I'll repost this early prediction once Trump/DeSantis wins.
 
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Another public hearing, more evidence of Trump and his chief of staff meadows being cunts. Oath Keeper and Proud boy witnesses today expected to say they invaded the capital on their presidents order.

If fuck all else comes out of this it will make a good 28 episode documentary in the future.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Where is the USA headed?

A radical right politician - Trump (or if he's ineligible) DeSantis - is going to be our next President. This is a slam dunk certainty IMO.

The economy is going to persuade undecideds to vote in massive favor of Republicans; Republicans will gain control of the Senate and the House as well. It's inevitable.

It's going to be a decade or two or perhaps more to recover from this shit storm.

Democrats have been thoroughly outplayed; to the extent that a radical party promulgating position after position that is unfavorable to most Americans is on the cusp of ceasing all governmental power (and this will occur without a coup - executive, legislative and judicial are all going to be Republican within the next few years).
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This is my take - I might be (and I hope that I am) wrong. But I'll repost this early prediction once Trump/DeSantis wins.
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Radical Right leader in the states and probably one here too.

Fuck...
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Where is the USA headed?

A radical right politician - Trump (or if he's ineligible) DeSantis - is going to be our next President. This is a slam dunk certainty IMO.

The economy is going to persuade undecideds to vote in massive favor of Republicans; Republicans will gain control of the Senate and the House as well. It's inevitable.

It's going to be a decade or two or perhaps more to recover from this shit storm.

Democrats have been thoroughly outplayed; to the extent that a radical party promulgating position after position that is unfavorable to most Americans is on the cusp of ceasing all governmental power (and this will occur without a coup - executive, legislative and judicial are all going to be Republican within the next few years).
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This is my take - I might be (and I hope that I am) wrong. But I'll repost this early prediction once Trump/DeSantis wins.
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Interesting. I think it's hard to predict Democrat prospects. You are surely right that they will cop some flak for the economy. But how much? They don't have a runner at all at the moment, but that merely leaves them time to find one. Whereas Trump is going to start hogging the floor now, and will have to avoid this turning into more risk of acquiring unpopularity. Can he pull the same mind tricks as last time, now he's actually been beaten very publicly? And what about the anyone but Trumps? Even in the Rs, he's only polling 50%. How many of the rest would actually deny him their support this time? There are those who would outright work against him all the way through. How much better organised would they be, compared to last? His wins left people blindsided and scattered to the wind. He won't get that this time. And also we'll have to wait and see how they can spin Russia, and other issues this time. Abortion rights were broadly supported by a sizeable majority of Americans. Hardly a niche Liberal issue.

My honest impression is that many will say, he's already had his chance. He's yesterday's man. Why try the same thing again?

Just take one hypothetical exchange. "Build the wall? How much did you actually get done, Donny?"

That's the Don thing in a nutshell. Half of us know there is no chance of him ever delivering. Others see him as useful, because he can persuade onlookers. And onlookers, Americans, others, they want to believe. If you're both up there promising the future, then, who do you listen to? Sure, people might fancy the old wasn't great and why wouldn't they treat the new guy exactly as they did, it doesn't add up to much that needs thinking about? This time, the game ought to be different. He will have a much harder job defending his believability on a lowest common denominator basis this time.
 
Summerbuzz said:
Interesting. I think it's hard to predict Democrat prospects. You are surely right that they will cop some flak for the economy. But how much? They don't have a runner at all at the moment, but that merely leaves them time to find one. Whereas Trump is going to start hogging the floor now, and will have to avoid this turning into more risk of acquiring unpopularity. Can he pull the same mind tricks as last time, now he's actually been beaten very publicly? And what about the anyone but Trumps? Even in the Rs, he's only polling 50%. How many of the rest would actually deny him their support this time? There are those who would outright work against him all the way through. How much better organised would they be, compared to last? His wins left people blindsided and scattered to the wind. He won't get that this time. And also we'll have to wait and see how they can spin Russia, and other issues this time. Abortion rights were broadly supported by a sizeable majority of Americans. Hardly a niche Liberal issue.

My honest impression is that many will say, he's already had his chance. He's yesterday's man. Why try the same thing again?

Just take one hypothetical exchange. "Build the wall? How much did you actually get done, Donny?"

That's the Don thing in a nutshell. Half of us know there is no chance of him ever delivering. Others see him as useful, because he can persuade onlookers. And onlookers, Americans, others, they want to believe. If you're both up there promising the future, then, who do you listen to? Sure, people might fancy the old wasn't great and why wouldn't they treat the new guy exactly as they did, it doesn't add up to much that needs thinking about? This time, the game ought to be different. He will have a much harder job defending his believability on a lowest common denominator basis this time.
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Agree with this. He’s trailing Biden — BIDEN — 44-41 in a poll I saw recently and Biden, as many have pointed out, is currently woefully unpopular. Not a good sign for Trump. Not like Elon is gonna be able to let him back on Twitter now either.
 
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