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super_city_si said:
Just shift all the oldies to El Salvador. Tell them its a super max retirement village in the Everglades
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Costa Rica and Panama are popular retirement destinations for Americans. Having just been in Belize for the first time, that's another place I wouldn't mind spending my golden years.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think the only conceivable solution to the problem is robotics and AI. Otherwise I fail to see how the old can be cared for and there be any sense of productivity in the economy.
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Possible, but the UK and US are service based economies so I’m not sure how that helps. Health and social care require people. Financial services you can see AI and algorithms being employed as they are now, but it still needs people. Flipping burgers, hairdressing whatever, all need people of employable age. Maybe further advancements will help with the demographic problem, but right now, developed countries need bodies. The alternative is that we radically rethink how our society and economies are structured which short of systemic social collapse I can’t see happening. We have people melting down over simple concepts like working from home let alone anything radical.

It’s absurd to think that as we advance in technology we are requiring citizens to start work earlier, work longer and retire later. Technology was meant to improve our lives not make it more onerous.

Currently, the UK and US keep the system going through migration into the working age demographic, while thoroughly decrying it at the same time, a mental conflict which has led to western countries going slowly insane :)
 
The only realistic solution to the demographic issue is migration. But try telling that to the older people who vote far-right and bitch endlessly about migrants while expecting the government to fund their 25+ year retirement and keep prices for labor-intensive goods and services low.
 
My understanding is that commerce/tariffs are under congressional rule but Trump has enacted them on Mexico and Canada under 'emergency' status and used the border/fentanyl as the reason.

If thats the case, then how can he use the same emergency to put blanket tariffs on everything - included UK, Europe, Ireland?
 
super_city_si said:
My understanding is that commerce/tariffs are under congressional rule but Trump has enacted them on Mexico and Canada under 'emergency' status and used the border/fentanyl as the reason.

If thats the case, then how can he use the same emergency to put blanket tariffs on everything - included UK, Europe, Ireland?
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You're assuming he follows rules and laws. Therein lies the answer to your question.
 
super_city_si said:
My understanding is that commerce/tariffs are under congressional rule but Trump has enacted them on Mexico and Canada under 'emergency' status and used the border/fentanyl as the reason.

If thats the case, then how can he use the same emergency to put blanket tariffs on everything - included UK, Europe, Ireland?
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Legal Basis of Trump Tariffs: An Unprecedented Use of an Existing Law​

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The administration justified the tariffs using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act or IEEP. This law was enacted in 1977 and grants the president authority to address threats to national security and the economy. It allows immediate action without the need for investigations or review processes. This marked the first time this law had been used to impose tariffs.
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The tariffs are being imposed under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The use of the IEEPA is significant because it is typically used for sanctions, not tariffs, and no modern U.S. president has used it in this way. Unlike Section 301 or Section 232 tariffs, which require an investigation and specific findings, the IEEPA allows the president to impose trade measures immediately without a formal review process.

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WT86 said:
The only realistic solution to the demographic issue is migration. But try telling that to the older people who vote far-right and bitch endlessly about migrants while expecting the government to fund their 25+ year retirement and keep prices for labor-intensive goods and services low.
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Same everywhere. Old people expect a generous government pension and then overwhelmingly vote against anything that might actually be able to pay for it.
 
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www.epi.org

Tariffs—Everything you need to know but were afraid to ask

During his presidential campaign, President Trump pledged to impose universal tariffs of 10–60% on all U.S. imports—a whopping $4.2 trillion in goods and services purchased from abroad in 2024. This was always a real possibility. The International Economic Emergency Powers Act gives the...
www.epi.org www.epi.org

The International Economic Emergency Powers Act

Legal Basis of Trump Tariffs: An Unprecedented Use of an Existing Law​

Posted on March 17, 2025

The administration justified the tariffs using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act or IEEP. This law was enacted in 1977 and grants the president authority to address threats to national security and the economy. It allows immediate action without the need for investigations or review processes. This marked the first time this law had been used to impose tariffs.
www.profolus.com

Legal Basis of Trump Tariffs: An Unprecedented Use of an Existing Law - Profolus

The new tariffs under the second-term Trump administration are based on the use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
www.profolus.com www.profolus.com

The tariffs are being imposed under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The use of the IEEPA is significant because it is typically used for sanctions, not tariffs, and no modern U.S. president has used it in this way. Unlike Section 301 or Section 232 tariffs, which require an investigation and specific findings, the IEEPA allows the president to impose trade measures immediately without a formal review process.

The “What,” “When,” and “How” of President Trump’s New Tariffs Against Canada, Mexico and China: Developing a Legal and Business Strategy - Law Offices of Snell & Wilmer

By Brett W. Johnson, Derek Flint, and T. Troy Galan 1. What? Tariff Rates and Legal Authority President Trump signed three executive orders imposing new tariffs against Canada, Mexico, and China, following through on prior campaign and post-inauguration promises. While implementation and...
www.swlaw.com www.swlaw.com
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They really only have themselves to blame. We all saw the first Trump presidency. We all know he had no respect for the 'norms' of government. Yet they did nothing to close loopholes and limit presidential powers while they actually had the chance.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Same everywhere. Old people expect a generous government pension and then overwhelmingly vote against anything that might actually be able to pay for it.
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Cutting tax breaks for the rich and not cutting social security for the poor to pay for those tax breaks would be a really good place to start, but a lot of Western nations have that arse-about-face, which is precisely what happens when you put rich people in charge.

Trickle-down economics is a complete lie.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Cutting tax breaks for the rich and not cutting social security for the poor to pay for those tax breaks would be a really good place to start, but a lot of Western nations have that arse-about-face, which is precisely what happens when you put rich people in charge.

Trickle-down economics is a complete lie.
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I prefer landslide economics…..pay heavy benefits to the bottom third and impose heavy taxes on the top third! Works a treat.
Countries like UK and USA have far too many poor kids, homeless people etc. USA is the richest country in the history of the world.
Both these countries have a desperate contrast between the haves and the have nots. A moral disgrace.
 
KS55 said:
I prefer landslide economics…..pay heavy benefits to the bottom third and impose heavy taxes on the top third! Works a treat.
Countries like UK and USA have far too many poor kids, homeless people etc. USA is the richest country in the history of the world.
Both these countries have a desperate contrast between the haves and the have nots. A moral disgrace.
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The financial disparity between the top and bottom 20% here in the US is absolutely mind blowing.
 
KS55 said:
Musk went there and behaved in a very weird fashion. I expect he lost the Republican more votes than he gained by handing out money.
Trump gave his support from the Oval Office and a huge amount was spent by a PAC.
The Democrat won by a big margin.
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Was it buyers remorse or did they get a better turnout from those who stood on the sideline before?
 
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