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There is a palpable feeling of dread in America today. I notice people not wanting to talk or interact with others the way they normally do. I personally feel like I don't know who I can speak freely with, like if I say something critical I could get reported. As this continues I expect people to withdraw from each other more and more. I literally don't trust family members at this point, they've fully drunk the kool-aid and are all in with wanting to see people go to prison for what they say.
This is very true, and this post is not going to get enough attention from non-Yanks. Very thankfully my family (wife, mother, kids, brother, sister, sister-in-law) are 100 percent lockstep with me across the board which makes me I suppose very lucky relative to you. But I noted my conversation with my local butcher earlier in one of these threads; had a couple with contractors beginning work on our house here in OR and it’s the same thing. Very upset with the current situation (costs plus lack of workers due to fear plus consumer demand hesitancy) but afraid to complain because they are just getting to know me (obviously I’d empathize and support their perspectives). My wife noticed that the pro-Trump/Vance signs in central OR which were reasonably prevalent in spring are now almost all gone in front of the ranches, though that could just be because the vote’s gone by) but I bet there are other reasons).
 
Hopefully the left and the right will cancel each other out.
It doesn’t, and isn’t going to, work like that.

This isn’t about left or right anymore.

Probably the 82nd time I’ve used this quote, from Keyser Soze, from The Usual Suspects.

“There was a gang of Hungarians that wanted their own mob. They realized that to be in power, you didn't need guns or money or even numbers. You just needed the will to do what the other guy wouldn't".

This is a fight between one side who has the will to do what the other side won’t, and all the rest of us.
 
There is a palpable feeling of dread in America today. I notice people not wanting to talk or interact with others the way they normally do. I personally feel like I don't know who I can speak freely with, like if I say something critical I could get reported. As this continues I expect people to withdraw from each other more and more. I literally don't trust family members at this point, they've fully drunk the kool-aid and are all in with wanting to see people go to prison for what they say.
Then they have won, stasi times in America, thevjj oh and if the free is gone, imagine if someone takes Trump out it will explode over there.
 
The mental twat probably means Captain Kirk.
Star date 23/567/43
“The Enterprise has encountered some turbulence. The inter galactic president has taken leave of his senses. We are unsure what to do. Any messages, Uhuru?”
—Yes captain. The president said “If you don’t shut your gob, I will have you banned.”
“Bones, what do you recommend?” —Abandon all vaccines captain.
“Scottie?” —She’ll not take it captain, we must slow to warp factor 3 to match the Epstein warp.
— This is not logical captain.
“Oh, fuck off, Vance.”
 
Has anyone confirmed that this is real?
Yup, looks like it is. And saw your post above. I used to live in Atlanta, and have a lot of American friends who I speak to on a regular basis. It sounds really grim your way at the minute. Had one friend in Boston, a professor of paediatrics and medicine, in tears on a call saying the landscape over there now is one of hatred towards the educated. "They hate us". Other friends worrying what they can and can't say on social media in case a colleague dobs them in and they get sacked. I was at school in GA for two years and the number of times i got told by some gobshite hick "I can say what I want, it's a free country". Turns out that's now gone, and I bet those same fuckers are celebrating it (it was always the rednecks).
 
Yup, looks like it is. And saw your post above. I used to live in Atlanta, and have a lot of American friends who I speak to on a regular basis. It sounds really grim your way at the minute. Had one friend in Boston, a professor of paediatrics and medicine, in tears on a call saying the landscape over there now is one of hatred towards the educated. "They hate us". Other friends worrying what they can and can't say on social media in case a colleague dobs them in and they get sacked. I was at school in GA for two years and the number of times i got told by some gobshite hick "I can say what I want, it's a free country". Turns out that's now gone, and I bet those same fuckers are celebrating it (it was always the rednecks).
The way I put it before: “Say what you want. But there are consequences to speaking publicly, intended and unintended, legal and illegal.” No different now — everyone is still “free”, but it’s the stakes for speaking out that have changed — drastically. Some of the dimmer bulbs here thought I was somehow justifying Kirk’s death with this way of thinking. But the same applies in Kimmel’s case. It’s a harsh, cold, bitter, unfair, angering, tragic reality. Loomer’s comments are simply beyond the pale.

I’ve also spoken previously about my disdain for moral cowardice. Perhaps one comes to expect it in politics. I have been more surprised to see it in corporate America. I am pretty shocked (and saddened, and scared) to see it in national media, especially as one who views Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein, Katherine Graham and Ben Bradlee as personal heroes.
 
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The way I put it before: “Say what you want. But there are consequences to speaking publicly, intended and unintended, legal and illegal.” No different now — everyone is still “free”, but it’s the stakes for speaking out that have changed — drastically. Some of the dimmer bulbs here thought I was somehow justifying Kirk’s death with this way of thinking. But the same applies in Kimmel’s case. It’s a harsh, cold, bitter, unfair, angering, tragic reality. Loomer’s comments are simply beyond the pale.

I’ve also spoken previously about my disdain for moral cowardice. Perhaps one comes to expect it in politics. I have been more surprised to see it in corporate America. I am pretty shocked (and saddened, and scared) to see it in national media, especially as one who views Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein, Katherine Graham and Ben Bradlee as personal heroes.

National media is a corporate business, so, unfortunately not that surprising.
 
National media is a corporate business, so, unfortunately not that surprising.
More than it used to be for sure . . . but there’s also this new distribution channel (the one you and I are using now) which greatly broadens the definition and reach of “media”, both high- and low-quality, biased and non-biased.
 
More than it used to be for sure . . . but there’s also this new distribution channel (the one you and I are using now) which greatly broadens the definition and reach of “media”, both high- and low-quality, biased and non-biased.

True, although the physical infrastructure which houses a lot of the internet data and services is primarily owned by Amazon, Microsoft, Google etc. Social media platforms are also skewed by algorithms which are often biased.

National media that beams news into your average American home is corporate America which is risk adverse and this leads to the National media censoring itself through fear, or as you say moral cowardice.

The US needs voices across the political spectrum to fight this because bias on one side can switch to bias on the other so there is self interest at stake, but I do not know if there is any real appreciation of this, or appetite for that fight.
 
The way I put it before: “Say what you want. But there are consequences to speaking publicly, intended and unintended, legal and illegal.” No different now — everyone is still “free”, but it’s the stakes for speaking out that have changed — drastically. Some of the dimmer bulbs here thought I was somehow justifying Kirk’s death with this way of thinking. But the same applies in Kimmel’s case. It’s a harsh, cold, bitter, unfair, angering, tragic reality. Loomer’s comments are simply beyond the pale.

I’ve also spoken previously about my disdain for moral cowardice. Perhaps one comes to expect it in politics. I have been more surprised to see it in corporate America. I am pretty shocked (and saddened, and scared) to see it in national media, especially as one who views Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein, Katherine Graham and Ben Bradlee as personal heroes.
Company and union both put out a “Stay off social media” message as doxxers seek to “cancel people and put your employment at risk.” Already had one union official from LA suspended for speaking out against a guy who said black pilots make him wonder if they’re actually qualified!

JD Vance said to “call out” anyone you see criticizing Kirk or his message, and then “calling their employers!”

That’s the fucking VPOTUS, who swore to uphold the Constitution!!

Looks like Kimmel is suing for $1Bn!!
 
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A genuine question here; where/when do posters think "cancel culture" started?
 
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