US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[HelloCity]

That's true.

Whatever one thinks of Starmer, after years of grifters and the unhinged in Downing Street, we do, at the very least, have an adult in Number 10.

Starmer does not disgrace this country, which is more than can be said for his immediate predecessors.

I don’t like Starmer but I at least trust him to work for the best interests of the country which is definitely something you couldn’t say about most of the Tory PM’s over the last 14 years.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Sorry to break it to you EB, but yes we have lost three on the bounce…

Oh heckle meckle that was the first part of my nightmare so the second part must also be true!

Ok that’s me taking to my bed for the rest of the day! Whoops I’m too busy for that. I’ll just have a cuppa!!!

 

[robbieh]

But that isn't how tariffs work. If Trump imposes tariffs then it is Americans who will pay those tariffs. Import costs are paid by the importer, IE, pass onto the customer. Trump has said he'll fix inflation but tariffs increase inflation immediately.

Personally I think western countries need to stop the anti-China rhetoric. They're only going to become the largest economy by a long stretch so it makes sense to work with them and take advantage of that.

Chinese goods even with the tariffs will still be cheaper and as you say the extra cost will be on the US taxpayer.
Agree about the rhetoric. We've already made it more costly doing business with the EU we don't really want to be pissing off another enormous market.

 

[moomba]

But that isn't how tariffs work. If Trump imposes tariffs then it is Americans who will pay those tariffs. Import costs are paid by the importer, IE, passed onto the customer. Trump has said he'll fix inflation but tariffs increase inflation immediately.

Personally I think western countries need to stop the anti-China rhetoric. They're only going to become the largest economy by a long stretch so it makes sense to work with them and take advantage of that.

I know. It was a play on Trump campaigning that tariffs would be paid by then originating country and not ultimately the American public buying the product.

 

[inbetween]

I think this shock win is a message for all of us and certainly the government and next UK election.

Labour have to get the next couple of years right because if they don't then we're headed for this madness too.

Some areas of Europe are already going there.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Well I thought for months that he would win but that result is a big one. How wrong were all those polls?

I gave up on being optimistic about polls after the Brexit result . Never pay much attention to them anymore.

 

[franksinatra]

That's true.

Whatever one thinks of Starmer, after years of grifters and the unhinged in Downing Street, we do, at the very least, have an adult in Number 10.

Starmer does not disgrace this country, which is more than can be said for his immediate predecessors.

Very true, your last paragraph highlights how low the bar is now in politics sadly.

Not a criticism of Starmer by the way but just as you highlight the depressing state of politics and those governing, not just in the UK but across the globe.

More than any other time, in my lifetime, we require unity and cooperation and those governing appear to want to follow a very different path.

 

[pee dubya]

Righto, time to avoid the news for the next four years.

 

[Kamaro011]

Unlike the republicans who were endorsed by Jon Voight, Russel Brand, Dennis Quaid, Mel Gibson, Kid Rock, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, Mike Tyson and Hulk Hogan struggling to rip of his shirt at every rally.

Both are suck, stop making excuses.

 

[HelloCity]

I think this shock win is a message for all of us and certainly the government and next UK election.

Labour have to get the next couple of years right because if they don't then we're headed for this madness too.

Some areas of Europe are already going there.

We beat them all to it. Brexit was the inspiration for a lot of work done for the first Trump campaign.