Nor have I.Speak for youself, I have never voted based on which party is promising I keep more of my money.
Let's see how people react when Farage leads the party.Don't think it's the majority even, when the tories win elections they can be the only party talking about tax cuts. They never get near 50%.
I suppose it's where your income is to begin with. If you are on the breadline, or struggling, then of course money will be a big concern. Some people don't have the luxury of a bigger picture.Nor have I.
I said theres a hypocritical majority of people who do as this result showed.
I've heard a lot of people say they had more money under Trump and that's their motivation for voting for him.
Think the vote will go down myself.Still though add tories and reform together, still won't get 50%.Let's see how people react when Farage leads the party.
All fair points.I suppose it's where your income is to begin with. If you are on the breadline, or struggling, then of course money will be a big concern. Some people don't have the luxury of a bigger picture.
Can't blame them for worrying about their income.
Currently Trump is on 51% of the popular vote, although there’s still a lot of votes to be counted in states that have already declared so it’s quite possible that he could end up with just under 50% which would be a minority. However, it doesn’t really matter whether it’s a majority or about half. It’s still a lot of people, and if it’s just under half it doesn’t really detract from his point.Don't think it's the majority even, when the tories win elections they can be the only party talking about tax cuts. They never get near 50%.
To fair I got distracted onto the UK ,even so it does detract from his point that a political leader could be right of Gengis Khan. A serial rapist, nonce and fraudster, and a majority,which to me implies well over half would support them for a few tax cuts. While it may be a bit truer in the States than here I think it's still wide of the mark.Currently Trump is on 51% of the popular vote, although there’s still a lot of votes to be counted in states that have already declared so it’s quite possible that he could end up with just under 50% which would be a minority. However, it doesn’t really matter whether it’s a majority or about half. It’s still a lot of people, and if it’s just under half it doesn’t really detract from his point.
I honestly do not think Trump is a fascist. To be a fascist would require him to have an ideology, which I don't think he has. He just does not come across as that kind of character. If socialism was in vogue, Trup would be advocating leftist policies. However, he is driven by self interest and supported by ideologues primarily of the Christian evangelical type and alt right bad faith actors linked to nefarious funders. This is what may well drive the policy approach of the Trump government.
I think Labour and other centrist parties need to learn a lesson from what has happened in the US and other countries where the right have had success: listen to the issues of the working class and act on their concerns. The more centrist parties simply offer retention of the status quo minus some minor tweaks, whilst asking the electorate for patience.
Hopefully, further recovery of economies, including improved public services, will lead to the marginalisation of populism, alt right, far right etc.. Goodness knows when this will happen, if at all, in the medium term.
When I think about the current state of politics I cannot help but think about what Plato once said about democracy: it is one of the later stages in the decline of the ideal state. It is so bad that people ultimately want a dictator to save them from it.