US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I don't know. Possibly, but I also think a lot of Trump sympathizers are mice who think they're cats. They act like they have some rational reason for voting for him, the economy or whatever, when the reality is they're easy marks and they've been taken in by his personality and his validation of their grievances, and they're ignoring every red flag. That's the particular skill of a conman and not easily replicable by another politician.

If they’re easy marks, they won’t be hard to fool next time either. In fact, they’ll be even easier.

 

[BayernMan]

It’s crazy that I keep hearing that Harris ran the “perfect campaign” in US media yet she got more than 10 million less votes than Biden. How can the perfect campaign cause so many people not to show up for you?

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

This election had nothing to do with Trump's crimes/indiscretions/unpalatable opinions.

Right. Character, decency, kindness and even simply abiding by the law doesn’t matter.

It’s a new bar set so low literally anyone can leap over it.

We’re never going back.

Ever.

 

[The blue phantom]

I don’t think that’s fair. You should listen to his Brian Cox interviews on there - fascinating insight into astronomy, physics etc - or his interviews with Bernie Sanders (to keep it in the political sphere) or Edward Snowdon. Rogan’s podcast are interesting when his interviewees are interesting. It’s true he invites the occasional nut job like Alex Jones and people on the fringes of society but intelligent people can make their own minds up about those figures and what is being said. I personally find when he has the less famous names on but specialists in their field (I often like the scientists or computer experts he invites on) they are the most insightful interviews. Each to their own I guess.

Rogan has gone down the rabbit hole of everything he once despised. Just watch Kyle dig up all his old clips of what he once stood for.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Rogan has gone down the rabbit hole of everything he once despised. Just watch Kyle dig up all his old clips of what he once stood for.

Joe Rogan never stood for anything. Except commercializing his personality.

 

[bugsyblue]

Hold up , most of the facist warnings were coming from Trumps former inner circle, generals that have worked with him for years.

Harris run a campaign predominantly of hope, love and change.

Fair point on Harris, she was definitely more composed and measured and didn't, from memory at least, really ever overstep the mark which of course is Trump's MO. But there were several democrats that labelled him fascist and/or hitler weren't there? I remember them having to clarify and correct their comments. Again this might be the right taking things out of context and manipulating the narrative. Either way I would say overall the left, be it democrats or media, were more sharped tongue against trump this time than last.

 

[Middedon]

It’s crazy that I keep hearing that Harris ran the “perfect campaign” in US media yet she got more than 10 million less votes than Biden. How can the perfect campaign cause so many people not to show up for you?

At least among the liberal pundits I listen to, it’s more “a perfect campaign given the situation.” Came in late, good debate, raised money, no big gaffes, etc. But the cards were stacked against her from the start - as kind of described in the attached.

 

[blue for life]

Welcome to the club. What took you so long?

Nothing. I have always thought that

 

[hcblue95]

Add to that the left's consistent attitude of treating the population like idiots, telling them they're better off when they are tangibly poorer, and it really is game over.

Because centrists and the right never do this? It's pretty much the first rule of politics, tell the public they're better off under their party.

Anyway who are the left in this scenario? The democrats are far more aligned with your politics than left wing politics.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Right. Character, decency, kindness and even simply abiding by the law doesn’t matter.

It’s a new bar set so low literally anyone can leap over it.

We’re never going back.

Ever.

I hear your frustration but people have never voted based on those factors.