US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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If things are that messed up, they were that messed up long before Wednesday and would still be that messed up with a democrat win. That's societal sickness. Granted it may get worse under trump but it's clearly there already. Hope you and yours are ok.
Yes it’s there but it’s mainstream now because Trump has normalised it.

It’ll be difficult putting it back in the bottle now as it’s going to just get worse.
 
I was thing exactly the same thing. Plus, there is the NHS and possibly medical insurance. The yanks will chuck us a few crumbs for those.

The poster was correct, none of those things happened in isolation. There was a reason for Trump being pro Brexit
Yes, it's all a vast conspiracy coordinated masterfully on a global scale by people who are also apparently stupid and incapable of running a business and certainly not a country.
 
Yes it’s there but it’s mainstream now because Trump has normalised it.

It’ll be difficult putting it back in the bottle now as it’s going to just get worse.
This is hysterical bed wetting nonsense. Trump is nowhere near power or effecting change until well into the new year. Ultimately this is all happening on the current governments watch.
I can appreciate anxiety at what is to come and that a minority of Americans are upset about the election result, but the simultaneously contradictory views that are held by some of you at present are just silly.
 
This is hysterical bed wetting nonsense. Trump is nowhere near power or effecting change until well into the new year. Ultimately this is all happening on the current governments watch.
I can appreciate anxiety at what is to come and that a minority of Americans are upset about the election result, but the simultaneously contradictory views that are held by some of you at present are just silly.
I think it's excusable to get the wind up if you list the likely deals discussed in the latest 'Rest is Politics' e.g. with Russia & China and their deadly implications for Ukraine & Taiwan also the Baltic States, Georgia etc plus the likely massively damaging effects of his Heritage Group policies on global climate efforts together with the economic hits of protection tarrifs on many countries.
 
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I think it's excusable to get the wind up if you list the likely deals discussed in the latest 'Rest is Politics' e.g. with Russia & China and their deadly implications for the Ukraine, Taiwan Baltic States, Georgia etc plus the likely massuve effects of the Heritage Group policies on global climate efforts together with the economic hits of protection tarrifs on many countries
Yes, but that isn't the stuff getting posted here that I'm talking about. The idea that America suddenly changed this week is nonsense. America is the same as it was last week, it's just that the penny has dropped with democrats that hardy anyone more than 30 miles inland of the coast thinks they are a good idea or agrees with them. The behaviour described on here of groups of young men and idiotic racist text messages probably amount to a huge 'fuck you' from people that have just endured months of being insulted and talked down to. It's all been like watching a slow moving car crash.
 
Yes, but that isn't the stuff getting posted here that I'm talking about. The idea that America suddenly changed this week is nonsense. America is the same as it was last week, it's just that the penny has dropped with democrats that hardy anyone more than 30 miles inland of the coast thinks they are a good idea or agrees with them. The behaviour described on here of groups of young men and idiotic racist text messages probably amount to a huge 'fuck you' from people that have just endured months of being insulted and talked down to. It's all been like watching a slow moving car crash.
OK - hadn't clocked the BM posts you are referring to but the prognosis being outlined by some quite respected UK pundits is putting the frighteners on me.
 
Yes, but that isn't the stuff getting posted here that I'm talking about. The idea that America suddenly changed this week is nonsense. America is the same as it was last week, it's just that the penny has dropped with democrats that hardy anyone more than 30 miles inland of the coast thinks they are a good idea or agrees with them. The behaviour described on here of groups of young men and idiotic racist text messages probably amount to a huge 'fuck you' from people that have just endured months of being insulted and talked down to. It's all been like watching a slow moving car crash.
I think that’s one of the main issues in the western world at the moment, lots of people are sick of been talked down to and told what they can and can’t say without been labelled racist etc. They see the system as having lied and let them down, the systems that have been in place fir ever and a day are just not working fir them so it’s a big fuck you to the establishment, Trump is abhorrent but he dialled into this disenfranchisement and ramped it up, when people see the streets awash with homeless, rising crime etc and less money in their pocket then clearly government has failed them. Walking through Manchester this morning the streets are filthy, homeless everywhere, pavement and roads are shite. Clearly policies and dogma from years ago are not working and people are thinking fuck it give the other guy a go how bad could it be!
We will see how bad it can get but I guarantee if Americans see more money in their pockets and the streets cleaned up they won’t give a shit who’s in the White House, Trumps alluded to it he could walk down the street killing people as long as they prosper.
 
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