US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

You’re acting like I haven’t seen his show, and telling me what I should believe.

What’s your next trick?
So can you give an example of a show where he had a bunch of gotchas for a Democratic Candidate or black woman?

Surely, your assumptions are based of past examples, right?
 
If you believe Rogan would do the following;

"Had Harris gone on there, it would have been a big “Bro smack down of the uppity black chick who thinks she can beat Trump!” He would have smacked her around, not let her get away with anything, and had video clip after video clip cued up and ready to go for every trap she walked into!"

Then you haven't watched or you are projecting your beliefs into him. It's nothing like a CNN and Fox interview. It's not about gotchas.
The naïveté is incredible.

Rogan’s audience supported Trump 2-1 BEFORE the election according to Edison.

His audience would have wanted to see a pig-sticking, not have their minds changed. Rogan knows this. Do you think he does his job for free, out of the goodness of his heart? He might have been fair, probably would have been actually. But of what benefit would that have been to Harris? Even if there was some, the opportunity cost was just a few weeks before the election.

The downside risk for Harris was greater than the upside. Whose mind was she going to change?

And he ended up supporting Trump anyhow. Shocker. Of course there’s no complaining from his fans about another dumb celebrity endorsing someone.

It’s over — you won. Well, now you get a full red slate to make the U.S. the way you want it.

No excuses if things aren’t a lot better for EVERYONE in the nation in four years.
 
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Why are you complaining? You won. Go make the world a better place.
It was never about making the world a better place, it was about owning the Lib's and making the world a better place for their orange clown god.

The politics of hate is never comes from a good place, and it will bite them on the arse. It always does. Just a shame they fucked everyone else over in the process.
 
It was never about making the world a better place, it was about owning the Lib's and making the world a better place for their orange clown god.

The politics of hate is never comes from a good place, and it will bite them on the arse. It always does. Just a shame they fucked everyone else over in the process.
Sad days ahead
 
It was never about making the world a better place, it was about owning the Lib's and making the world a better place for their orange clown god.

The politics of hate is never comes from a good place, and it will bite them on the arse. It always does. Just a shame they fucked everyone else over in the process.
Well that’s their job now. They have a “mandate.” I expect suffering to decline, all to be wealthier, peace across the globe and a chicken in every pot.

I’m sure the happiness train for regular Americans is right on track.
 
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Of what personal financial benefit was brokering the Middle Eastern Accords? Or trying to lower hostilities with N. Korea?

There is more money to be made in entering and prosecuting wars. So if personal financial benefits were his goal, he is certainly going about it the wrongeat of ways.

I think this is a case of superimposing ones feeling about Trump the man unto his actions.


I think left to their own devices both parties have enough unscrupulous actors who'd attempt to do corrupt things. We've always had evidence of this and there are even some in this cycle.

The prosecutions and reports in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona or the Bucks county case of elections official "incorrectly" closing polling places early.

But that neither here nor there. I was referring to the attempts to remove a party's candidate from the ballot box entirely.

Something that officials in many States attempted against Trump, Jill Stein, and RFK in this election.

And other external attempts to cripple Trump, specifically because he was the opposition. I find these to be actual threats to democracy


Again, this is just framing. I have harshed this out before many times and don't want to do so again. Granted probably not with you.

But here is the video

Watch it and whatever conclusion you draw, I am happy to accept and agree to disagree.

I had this debate too many times in the past. Let's agree to disagree. I'm sure I won't convince you.


Again, I disagree both on the outcome from a legal standpoint and the manner and purpose of bringing the case.

No. I'm of the opinion, that laws should not be used as tools to undermine an opponent you fair you can't defeat in an open free and fair election.

Think I answered this earlier. The 2 potential assassins. And whoever their handlers might have been


Fair point. Let me downgrade. I strongly doubt that I will.

I'm happy to disagree agreeably on the majority of this.

Two things though.

I have thought if I am superimposing my feelings about Trump the man as opposed to his actions, it is a possibility but I think I'm backed with plenty of evidence about the man's character to confidently say I am not, "by their fruits, you shall know them" (a biblical phrase we can surely agree Trump has no knowledge of).

Regarding the Middle East Accords. There was already a pre-existing strategy among certain leaders in the Middle East to reshape regional alliances and counteract Iran, Qatar, and Turkey. Saudi, UAE, and Israel were particularly interested in a coalition to reduce Iranian influence and strengthen their own political and economic positions not just regionally but globally.

They saw Trump as a favourable partner/useful idiot (delete as appropriate) due to his business interests in the region and his transactional approach to foreign policy. Rather than instigating these alliances himself, he was seen as a useful, cooperative figure who could implement policies that aligned with their goals. Policies like exiting the Iran nuclear deal, supporting Saudi-led actions in Yemen, and recognising Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

Trump provided a much more compliant US, that helped advance their goals with US backing, which was a shift from past US administrations. It can be argued that this contributed to increased tensions leading to the current conflict.

The meeting with Kim Jong Un was just a photo-op, nothing substantial came out of it.

The second is the use of the word 'they' in relation to the assassination attempts. The Republicans knew that by saying 'they' when talking about it, they were implying that it was the Democrats/the deep state/the enemy within. Suggesting handlers is heading towards conspiracy, which is a very dark hole that some don't come back from.
 

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