US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[super_city_si]

Doesn't go far enough of you ask me

Should be able to abort the little fuckers up until they're eighteen.

Oh you can, once they're out (born) its fair game. That's when the 2nd amendment takes precedence over heartbeat

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Interesting take by one Fareed Zahkaria who has a weekly show on CNN and is by no means a right winger. Hell, he has a show on CNN FFS!! His take was the Dems made three big errors:
1) The border...."there was blindness to the collapse of the immigration system and the chaos at the border" Check

2) Over the top wokeness "there was a dominance of identity politics on the left" ie they took extreme positions Check

3) Attacking a political opponent using the justice system. There was "an overzealous misuse of the law to punish trump" Check

Now I know number 3 will be like catnip to those of you who totally hate Trump. I get it. You think he is the devil.

I was excoriated when I posted that his convictions would HELP him in the election. Many voters saw what the cases were about and the main actors behind them and thought "No I am not having this."

Alvin Bragg and Tish James. Now i dont expect the audience on here (mostly living in England) to be familiar with the Manhattan DA and the Attorney General of the state of New York. Both are horrible human beings.

Bragg is a no bail guy and doesnt like locking up violent criminals. hell, when the radical students of Columbia university took control and unleashed mayhem and violence on its Manhattan campus he didnt prosectue anyone. They even used violence and held a poor working stiff janitor hostage! Nothing to see here.
James is the Attorney General of the state, an elected position. She got the nomination of the Democratic Party. A potted plant would win the office if they had a D at the end of their names! If we had an over/under bet on her IQ and the number was 90 I would bet my lungs out on the UNDER!!

I also predicted that his convictions would get overturned on appeal. I am certain the Appeals court in NY state is infested with rabid right wingers-NOT!

Also if Trump is Hitler, which is all we heard for months, how the hell can Harris certify his election?

I am telling you if the Democrats dont have more of an introspection about the direction of the party and its core positions they MIGHT NOT take back one of the houses of Congress in the mid term elections in 2026. That is if the elections will actually happen. Trump will do what Lenin did when Russia had free elections in 1917. When Lenin lost, he declared to results null and void and took power-SARCASM ALERT.

I find it almost painful hearing and watching the Democrats sniping at each other-especially the octogenarians Sanders/Pelosi/Schumer.

On Fareed Zahkaria's points:

1) On the border - Dems were 100% behind the bipartisan border bill that Trump killed;
2) Valid point. Carville makes the exact same observation;
3) Mixed - Trump broke the law on numerous occasions. The prosecution against Trump failed b/c it didn't start soon enough and b/c Jack Smith wasn't aggressive enough - he should have sought removal of Cannon.

As for the rest of your post... it's full of rambling opinions, requiring a suspense of logic to follow and believe in - which is, my convoluted way of saying, "Bullshit."

 

[N1985]

Oh you can, once they're out (born) its fair game. That's when the 2ns amendment takes precedence over heartbeat

Is the 3rd amendment packing your bags and leaving the little fucker with its birth giver?

 

[The blue phantom]

So let me check. You're not in favour of killing criminals who have exhausted a long and expensive legal route. But you are in favour of killing babies who through no fault of their own may limit someone's career ambitions?

Yes Im fully aware I'm being extremely uncharitable towards a pro choice argument but it's all the rage these days

I've no idea how you've come to that conclusion. I'm pro Abortion and against the death penalty.

 

[Frank the Yank]

On Fareed Zahkaria's points:

1) On the border - Dems were 100% behind the bipartisan border bill that Trump killed;
2) Valid point. Carville makes the exact same observation;
3) Mixed - Trump broke the law on numerous occasions. The prosecution against Trump failed b/c it didn't start soon enough and b/c Jack Smith wasn't aggressive enough - he should have sought removal of Cannon.

As for the rest of your post... it's full of rambling opinions, requiring a suspense of logic to follow and believe in.

Yeah that border bill would have been a panacea!! Now who is in a state of suspended logic…

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Makes it more difficult to blame the deep state, neoliberal elites, liberal judges etc etc when he fucks it all up. Won’t stop him trying and as long as he has his ministry of truth working properly led by Musk there’s more than a good chance he will continue to get away with it.
Maybe when people actually start dying because Obama care gets repealed and they can’t afford the replacement people will start to realise. Doubt it though.

All he has to do is utter the words "radical Democrat's" and he absolves himself of any blame. It's like magic.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

On Fareed Zahkaria's points:

1) On the border - Dems were 100% behind the bipartisan border bill that Trump killed;
2) Valid point. Carville makes the exact same observation;
3) Mixed - Trump broke the law on numerous occasions. The prosecution against Trump failed b/c it didn't start soon enough and b/c Jack Smith wasn't aggressive enough - he should have sought removal of Cannon.

As for the rest of your post... it's full of rambling opinions, requiring a suspense of logic to follow and believe in - which is, my convoluted way of saying, "Bullshit."

It's an absolute certainty that Jack Smith was shackled by Garland's refusal to act in the Cannon case.

You have to ask yourself why Garland was so fearful of apply the law equally and fairly?

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Yeah that border bill would have been a panacea!! Now who is in a state of suspended logic…

Huh?

I said that - "1) On the border - Dems were 100% behind the bipartisan border bill that Trump killed;"

You somehow morph 1 into a false claim that I think it "would have been a panacea!!" - whatever the fuck that means.

But go you!

Hint - I don't think for a minute that emigration was the reason that Dems lost the election. What do I think caused the loss?... We'll it's fucking 100% crystal goddamn clear if you've read what I've previously posted - or maybe not, as you're seemingly incapable of drawing factual conclusions from written statements.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

It's ostensibly for religious/moral grounds - but the truth is that the issue is convenient for religious leaders/politicians who want to galvanize support for their views, even if some of those views are amoral. See https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...istory-right-white-evangelical-1970s-00031480 for example.

Don’t the evangelists take the bible as gospel, so to say? If so, why are so many of them nonces, grifters, and control freaks?

The control freaks probably speaks volumes, they want to control everything in their world.

 

[Frank the Yank]

If you think illegal immigration and the chaos at the border wasnt the reason, or at least a big reason Harris and the Dems lost, then good for you. If you think the Democrats didnt go left enough, then good for you. Prepare for another defeat in two years or at least not making as much inroads as the Dems could have. Once again I have to add the caveat or IF the 2026 midterms take place. Thats not what the data says.

I wonder why trump got 46% of the Hispanic vote and she gained "only" 86% of the black vote. Trump did better amongst blacks, about 13%, but the campaign though it would do better. Turnout was down as well. I am certain illegal immigration had NOTHING to do with that. I am sure it was bigotry that minorities didnt vote enough for a minority candidate. Lets throw a healthy dose of misogyny as well. Theres your answer....