US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[roubaixtuesday]

I refuse to be influenced by the media and do my own research

Love people who write this sort of shit. Instantly allows anything else by written to be safely dismissed.

Just needs an "MSM" to be perfect.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yeah, I was being charitable, to be honest. My granddad was diagnosed with vascular dementia in 2015 but he'd been showing symptoms for about two years before that point. He was 78 upon diagnosis, the same age Trump is now. And Trump reminds me of where my granddad was in roughly 2013. Still the same guy 99% of the time but really losing confidence and volume in his voice, and taking that bit longer to process information.

The other thing is the eyes. I saw it in Biden around the time he was elected and now I see it in Trump - dementia patients just get a look in their eyes and once you've seen it in a close relative you can't help but spot it everywhere else. It's hard to put your finger on it but it just slowly appears, even before their minds start going. They start looking through things instead of at them. And it's just come into Trump's public behaviour - largely since the shooting.

It’s a terrible thing for anyone to endure.

 

[KS55]

Speaking as someone who has always been good at viewing the qualities of those I disagree with politically (Thatcher, Benn, Reagan and even Farage) the issue with Trump is that he has no identifiable redeeming characteristics whatsoever, which informs my incredulity as to how anyone could view him positively.

For me, it’s not about his politics, but rather his manifest unsuitability to hold public office in numerous ways.

I am genuinely baffled, give all he says and does, how any reasoned, rational person cannot see this.

There are spice heads in Piccadilly Gardens who are more suited to running a country than Donald Trump.

On that basis it is impossibly difficult for me to understand their state of mind or reasoning, as much as I genuinely try to.

It’s akin to having a conversation with someone who says they don’t rate KDB. It simply doesn’t compute and, frankly, isn’t worth the time and emotional energy.

It’s his demagoguery. He used to speak well in those terms and he is followed as a cult leader. His followers are not engaging in logical analysis. His lies are believed implicitly.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Is there another example who could do better perhaps?

Well no, I don't think there is. And therein lies the problem.

 

[KS55]

Dixville Notch, New Hampshire has declared its result - 6 voters, 3 each for Kamala & the Orange moron.

I bet that’s 3 men for Trump and three women for Harris.

 

[johnny crossan]

Well no, I don't think there is. And therein lies the problem.

Certainly none that's been groomed for President. I'm starting to think it's so close the Supreme Court will decide the outcome today - and we know who that'll be if they get to choose....

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

At no point have I mentioned reasoning with a mob, this is currently being discussed on a football forum and yet people are still hurling insults and unable to have any sort of civil conversation. I highly doubt that anyone in this thread marched on the capitol but if I am wrong and you are reading this then please make yourself known as that will send this thread down a rather interesting path.

I don’t know how you expect anyone to reason with cult members. The worst of them are on ignore for me. And I’m probably the most conservative anti-Trumper here.

 

[Ducado]

My sister who has lived in the states for years now and is now an American citizen is not happy with the choices they have a bit like here, but it fills me with dread the prospect of another Trump term, like it or not the USA is the leader of the free world (yes I know but I didn't invent the term) and what happens there has a direct effect on us here

A nativist America is a disaster for the rest of the world, you can't be a super power and isolate yourself it happened before and it always ends in disasters

 

[meltonblue]

I agree with what your saying about people despising Trump and I by no means think he is a good person, but surely when half of America have wanted him in for the last two elections the answer isn't to just ignore these people or personally attack them. I appreciate what I'm saying is easier said then done but if everyone was a little more open to hearing the opinion of the other side there would be far less tension not only in America but over here as well.

There is a balancing act as to how much you allow opinions that aren’t based on any actual factual evidence to grow and be amplified though, particularly nowadays in a post truth world.

How to deal with that, I don’t think anyone’s worked out yet. The internet and social media spawned far sooner than society was mature enough to use it. It was fine in the early days as the immaturity meant it was just loads of porn!

 

[Ducado]

Speaking as someone who has always been good at viewing the qualities of those I disagree with politically (Thatcher, Benn, Reagan and even Farage) the issue with Trump is that he has no identifiable redeeming characteristics whatsoever, which informs my incredulity as to how anyone could view him positively.

For me, it’s not about his politics, but rather his manifest unsuitability to hold public office in numerous ways.

I am genuinely baffled, give all he says and does, how any reasoned, rational person cannot see this.

There are spice heads in Piccadilly Gardens who are more suited to running a country than Donald Trump.

On that basis it is impossibly difficult for me to understand their state of mind or reasoning, as much as I genuinely try to.

It’s akin to having a conversation with someone who says they don’t rate KDB. It simply doesn’t compute and, frankly, isn’t worth the time and emotional energy.

I was equally mystified when Boris (or whatever his name really was) got to be Prime Minister and how many working class people fawned over him