VAR - 2020/21

[Xhavenjoe]

A far worse decision than Fodens non penalty was Milan's disallowed goal.
No one anywhere but the Var studio saw a handball and yet a crucial early (away) goal is disallowed.

Not one United player appealed for a handball.

 

[pauls]

Agree absolutely about the incompetence. Being able to hear the dialogue would require someone, whether the ref or Stockley Park, to give their views/explanations. At present silence allows imbecilic explanations to be conjured up and repeated minutes (or the following day) after the event rather than in the immediate aftermath.

You only need to mirror the Llorente goal in the Spurs game QF to see how we are officiated differently. I do wish the club would grow some balls, Gill and Ferguson should be nowhere near our stadium.

 

[Akira]

I keep reading that Foden was to honest that's why VAR didnt award City a penalty.
Since when has the quality of the fall been part of a penalty decision ?

VAR on Foden " that looked like a stonewall penalty but his fall wasnt very good , he didnt throw both arms in the air and scream, he didnt even roll around or try to put a pike into the fall. So I only score that fall 1 out of 10 and no penalty, very poor from Foden.

VAR on liverpool or utd " didnt look like a penalty never touched him but the fall was very good. Both arms thrown into the air, lots of height in the jump with both legs high and bent by the knees brining his feet up to his arse, very good. Than the 6 rolls on the ground and that terrible scream. One of the best falls I have seen all, so i give it 9 out 10 and a penalty "

I thought VAR was to see if the was a foul regardless of how the player goes down.

The more I look at it, hear Talksport talk about it, hear pundits talk about it, the more it pissed me off. Those knobs at the VAR room aren't judging pens on the contact but on how the player falls. It's ridiculous and backwards.

If we forget the notion there's a conspiracy, it just makes things worse doesn't it? It just means the refs are THAT bad, that they can't see a 10/10 penalty.

Honestly, I've watched so much games this season, and I think I can count with my one hand how many times I go, "Ah, VAR did well there." Most times, it's "why the fuck is that offside/penalty/handball etc." At this point, I wonder what's the point of VAR if it added practically nothing much to the game but only took away the joy of football.

 

[ysmsa]

Offsides and penalty claims are being scrutinised to a ridiculous degree.

If its taking VAR ages to decide if offside using technology, rulers, graphics etc how the hell is a player during a match able to assess if he is on or off in a split second.

Basically they are saying its pot luck if your goal is allowed which is completely wrong.

Penalties are worse because no formula is used and it boils down to which team is appealing for or against an award.

All that fuss by the Rags for an inconclusive handball v Chelsea yet Raz doesnt get a second glance in the Derby when blocked as he is about to shoot and quite possibly score.

 

[cheekybids]

The more I look at it, hear Talksport talk about it, hear pundits talk about it, the more it pissed me off. Those knobs at the VAR room aren't judging pens on the contact but on how the player falls. It's ridiculous and backwards.

If we forget the notion there's a conspiracy, it just makes things worse doesn't it? It just means the refs are THAT bad, that they can't see a 10/10 penalty.

Honestly, I've watched so much games this season, and I think I can count with my one hand how many times I go, "Ah, VAR did well there." Most times, it's "why the fuck is that offside/penalty/handball etc." At this point, I wonder what's the point of VAR if it added practically nothing much to the game but only took away the joy of football.

it seems to be that to get a pen you need to defy the laws to f gravity when falling

 

[Blue Mist]

I assume which ever tv provider has the rights to the match supplies the images to Stockley Park.
The worrying thing is no one outside of BT/Sky and Pigmol know how many camera angles are sent. They should of course be sent every single angle but are they?
Also how many do Pigmol view? No one knows. It is this secrecy that allows the corruption.
It is clear VAR can be manipulated to suit any agenda they want.
I have yet to see anyone, pundit fan anyone, agree with the ref and Pigmol about the Southampton penalty never mind the foul on Foden.
We can't all be wrong and 2 people right.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Not one United player appealed for a handball.

It's always happened with the rags..... the Keane penalty against us springs to mind.

If VAR was fucked off they'd still get all the decisions.

As someone posted VAR needs to be audio at least then there'd be a modicum of accountability.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

It's always happened with the rags..... the Keane penalty against us springs to mind.

If VAR was fucked off they'd still get all the decisions.

As someone posted VAR needs to be audio at least then there'd be a modicum of accountability.

Which is why PiGMOL are against it and any form of trasnsparency .

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Which is why PiGMOL are against it and any form of trasnsparency .

Goes without saying.

From what I've seen they are also incompetent, mistakes honest or otherwise are made in lots of games, it's just we seem to get loads more.

If trophies were awarded for VAR lines we'd have that particular title sewn up months ago.

 

[Mike Cledford]

I assume which ever tv provider has the rights to the match supplies the images to Stockley Park.
The worrying thing is no one outside of BT/Sky and Pigmol know how many camera angles are sent. They should of course be sent every single angle but are they?
Also how many do Pigmol view? No one knows. It is this secrecy that allows the corruption.
It is clear VAR can be manipulated to suit any agenda they want.
I have yet to see anyone, pundit fan anyone, agree with the ref and Pigmol about the Southampton penalty never mind the foul on Foden.
We can't all be wrong and 2 people right.

Some Var decisions take ages and we never know why, whether just one angle is shown or many. It's quite possible they review many until get the one they want. They sometimes make a decision so quickly that they can have only looked at one view at one speed although a second pic can give a completely different decision. If they have two contrasting viewpoints how do they decide which to choose? I myself often find that a full speed replay shows me better (and opposite) opinion.
Quite often the TV company will show the viewers many clips - too many for the Var to have seen in the short time. Then we have those incidents where we are left wondering whether ethe Var has looked at anything at all - Salah after the juggling act at Anfield last year.
There are probably many more variables but two constants stick in mind. We do not have a clue what happens because there is no Mike where we can tell what is going on. They refuse to be transparent. The second is the media seem to live with this quite happily. Why? The panel on Football Focus have not mentioned this problem just now but found time for a Wolves player to have a flirty interview with some woman and discuss mother's day.
Too many clubs in the Hateful Eight are happy to be where they are sitting comfortably. A shame none of them can go down because of a dodgy decision for a team in red.